The Gun Politics Thread

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Yes, Steve, sure. Fine, your choice: you're being cute or you're genuinely ignorant. And that is why your contributions here are little more than a sideshow. Plenty of people here like a good discussion, but we demand more than you can offer. See ya, sweetie.
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Plenty of tyranny in the US that white gunfuckers aren't doing shit about. Capital's running of people's lives, cops killing black people indiscriminately, poisoned water. But at least they're keeping the King of England at bay.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 3:21pm
Yes, Steve, sure. Fine, your choice: you're being cute or you're genuinely ignorant. And that is why your contributions here are little more than a sideshow. Plenty of people here like a good discussion, but we demand more than you can offer. See ya, sweetie.
Keep your little self important for the 20 year olds in philosophy 101 at the school coffee shop discussion going. It means so much.
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Going back to what’s important: Flex’s time.
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Wolter wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 5:26pm
Going back to what’s important: Flex’s time.
Flex's time to what? Pay? Repent? Say his last words? Be impeached? Buy me a present?
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 5:30pm
Wolter wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 5:26pm
Going back to what’s important: Flex’s time.
Flex's time to what? Pay? Repent? Say his last words? Be impeached? Buy me a present?
These are all good answers.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 5:30pm
Wolter wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 5:26pm
Going back to what’s important: Flex’s time.
Flex's time to what? Pay? Repent? Say his last words? Be impeached? Buy me a present?
Sadly, Flex Time will be just as unpleasantly dystopian as Bernie Time: http://www.iflscience.com/technology/20 ... sex-robot/
:idea: :disshame:

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Rat Patrol wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 6:08pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 5:30pm
Wolter wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 5:26pm
Going back to what’s important: Flex’s time.
Flex's time to what? Pay? Repent? Say his last words? Be impeached? Buy me a present?
Sadly, Flex Time will be just as unpleasantly dystopian as Bernie Time: http://www.iflscience.com/technology/20 ... sex-robot/
:idea: :disshame:
Speaking of constitutional repeals, Flex should be repealed. I'll bet that limp noodle Souter would write an op-ed in support.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 12:41pm
http://www.citypages.com/news/rep-mary- ... /478026603

When your response strategy is to encourage your nation to hate and fear its kids, that should be a look-in-the-mirror moment if you have any kind of moral core.
Sorry, to quote myself but the Ingraham thing seems further apropos.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/ ... d-shooting

How close is this getting to a Joseph Welch-Joe McCarthy “Have you no shame at last?” moment? That they think it's good strategy to mock and demonize kids whose crime is to want to minimize gun violence shows that the 2A crowd is unhinged. Are they capable of putting forward their position without foaming and jeering? If I were the PR adviser, the first thing I'd tell them is to shut the fuck up. Quit shrieking and seeking to make Americans hate their youth. But it's hard not to conclude that it's the only mode they have now. And when all you have left is hysteria and contempt, you're holding a losing hand, getting worse with every tantrum.

edit: Totally misremembered Welch's line. It's "At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
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Vermont Treads on Snakes; Trees of Liberty Begin Dying Without Enough Blood
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/30/us/v ... n-law.html
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Isn't Vermont already pretty much the safest state in the country with virtually no gun crime? But if it feels good to pass gun laws do it right? What's that about look out for look out for rules and regulations?
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https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday ... /475554002

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 Mar 2018, 9:18pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Mar 2018, 12:41pm
http://www.citypages.com/news/rep-mary- ... /478026603

When your response strategy is to encourage your nation to hate and fear its kids, that should be a look-in-the-mirror moment if you have any kind of moral core.
Sorry, to quote myself but the Ingraham thing seems further apropos.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/ ... d-shooting

How close is this getting to a Joseph Welch-Joe McCarthy “Have you no shame at last?” moment? That they think it's good strategy to mock and demonize kids whose crime is to want to minimize gun violence shows that the 2A crowd is unhinged. Are they capable of putting forward their position without foaming and jeering? If I were the PR adviser, the first thing I'd tell them is to shut the fuck up. Quit shrieking and seeking to make Americans hate their youth. But it's hard not to conclude that it's the only mode they have now. And when all you have left is hysteria and contempt, you're holding a losing hand, getting worse with every tantrum.

edit: Totally misremembered Welch's line. It's "At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
Hogg is not a helpless child. He's fair game. He's attacking like a good little Nazi and hiding behind his age. He can't have it both ways. He's 17, not 7. He wants to be taken seriously like he knows what he's talking about but then hide behind his youth and not take any heat for attacking a basic human right.
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17 was still underage by law-of-the-land last I checked. Yes, he's a public figure by choosing and can be critiqued as such. But that does not mean he is unrestricted fair game like...in your words..."a good little Nazi" openly inviting a solid punch on the schnozz from a random stranger. If some critic feels like going too far exposing him, they're going to tangle with legal protections for minors having their privacy violated. You don't have to like that, but your beef is with 17 still being legally minor in the U.S. and that's not the least bit relevant to any gun politicking.

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SteveSatch wrote:
31 Mar 2018, 1:03pm
He wants to be taken seriously like he knows what he's talking about but then hide behind his youth and not take any heat for attacking a basic human right.

I assume you are speaking of the right to defend one’s self, correct? I think it’s exceedingly rare that anyone successfully defends themselves with a firearm. It’s just not practical. Unless you constantly keep a loaded weapon within arms reach at all times it is just not practical. To use a firearm properly one should be well trained, of stable mind, and take on full responsibility for that firearms stewardship. Why gun nuts disagree with some basic regulations that would ensure that we live in a civil society that is free from the fear of monthly massacres I will never understand. Instead we see the same play over and over again; a massacre happens, people get pissed that firearms are readily available to dangerous people, gun nuts throw a hissy fit, the news cycle passes, and we wait a few weeks for the next one. Maybe if firearms owners would realize that the NRA is just a lobbyist for businesses focused on profit and not a rights organization we’d all be better off.
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