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So earlier this week, rapper Lil Peep OD'd. I'd never heard of the guy until, coincidentally, the week previous, when students told me about him being this controversial guy in the game. I brought up his death in class yesterday and several told me that the online chatter was, in essence, why should I have any sympathy for a guy who always talked about ODing and then does? I said that that was really harsh—addiction is a medical problem, not a moral one—and mentioned an observation here that was made by, I'm pretty sure, Wolter, that of the big singers from the grunge scene, only Eddie Vedder is left and maybe we shouldn't have been so snide in dismissing these when they spoke about depression and their struggle to be happy. I didn't read a lot of sympathy in the room to that comment. In previous years, students have also zeroed in on Cobain and expressed little sympathy.

Are Millennials more hard hearted about this stuff? Does being wired up all the time on social media desensitize? I'm a pretty emotionally guarded person (does irritation count as an emotion?), but I'm taken aback at the near contempt of so many comments.
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18 Nov 2017, 12:10pm
So earlier this week, rapper Lil Peep OD'd. I'd never heard of the guy until, coincidentally, the week previous, when students told me about him being this controversial guy in the game. I brought up his death in class yesterday and several told me that the online chatter was, in essence, why should I have any sympathy for a guy who always talked about ODing and then does? I said that that was really harsh—addiction is a medical problem, not a moral one—and mentioned an observation here that was made by, I'm pretty sure, Wolter, that of the big singers from the grunge scene, only Eddie Vedder is left and maybe we shouldn't have been so snide in dismissing these when they spoke about depression and their struggle to be happy. I didn't read a lot of sympathy in the room to that comment. In previous years, students have also zeroed in on Cobain and expressed little sympathy.

Are Millennials more hard hearted about this stuff? Does being wired up all the time on social media desensitize? I'm a pretty emotionally guarded person (does irritation count as an emotion?), but I'm taken aback at the near contempt of so many comments.
This sounds a lot more like my parents' mentality than millennials...my 'rents seem more than happy (almost to a point of schadenfreude) to allow people to die if they're going to be so stupid as to get addicted to heroin or whatever. I finally got my mom to at least think about reconsidering her view on safe injection sites when I brought it home to her by telling her that the risk of her line cook at the bar & grill having hepatitis might not be desirable. But as for having zero sympathy or empathy about folks dying—seems much more boomer to me. At least in my experiences with younger millennials.
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Kory wrote:
18 Nov 2017, 8:38pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
18 Nov 2017, 12:10pm
So earlier this week, rapper Lil Peep OD'd. I'd never heard of the guy until, coincidentally, the week previous, when students told me about him being this controversial guy in the game. I brought up his death in class yesterday and several told me that the online chatter was, in essence, why should I have any sympathy for a guy who always talked about ODing and then does? I said that that was really harsh—addiction is a medical problem, not a moral one—and mentioned an observation here that was made by, I'm pretty sure, Wolter, that of the big singers from the grunge scene, only Eddie Vedder is left and maybe we shouldn't have been so snide in dismissing these when they spoke about depression and their struggle to be happy. I didn't read a lot of sympathy in the room to that comment. In previous years, students have also zeroed in on Cobain and expressed little sympathy.

Are Millennials more hard hearted about this stuff? Does being wired up all the time on social media desensitize? I'm a pretty emotionally guarded person (does irritation count as an emotion?), but I'm taken aback at the near contempt of so many comments.
This sounds a lot more like my parents' mentality than millennials...my 'rents seem more than happy (almost to a point of schadenfreude) to allow people to die if they're going to be so stupid as to get addicted to heroin or whatever. I finally got my mom to at least think about reconsidering her view on safe injection sites when I brought it home to her by telling her that the risk of her line cook at the bar & grill having hepatitis might not be desirable. But as for having zero sympathy or empathy about folks dying—seems much more boomer to me. At least in my experiences with younger millennials.
Of course I don't want to paint with some kind of totalizing brush—like that hack, Matisse, amiright?—but for a generation that's less religious and more pro-legalization than than older folks, I'm nevertheless struck when I come across that coldness towards addiction in young folk.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
18 Nov 2017, 9:05pm
Kory wrote:
18 Nov 2017, 8:38pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
18 Nov 2017, 12:10pm
So earlier this week, rapper Lil Peep OD'd. I'd never heard of the guy until, coincidentally, the week previous, when students told me about him being this controversial guy in the game. I brought up his death in class yesterday and several told me that the online chatter was, in essence, why should I have any sympathy for a guy who always talked about ODing and then does? I said that that was really harsh—addiction is a medical problem, not a moral one—and mentioned an observation here that was made by, I'm pretty sure, Wolter, that of the big singers from the grunge scene, only Eddie Vedder is left and maybe we shouldn't have been so snide in dismissing these when they spoke about depression and their struggle to be happy. I didn't read a lot of sympathy in the room to that comment. In previous years, students have also zeroed in on Cobain and expressed little sympathy.

Are Millennials more hard hearted about this stuff? Does being wired up all the time on social media desensitize? I'm a pretty emotionally guarded person (does irritation count as an emotion?), but I'm taken aback at the near contempt of so many comments.
This sounds a lot more like my parents' mentality than millennials...my 'rents seem more than happy (almost to a point of schadenfreude) to allow people to die if they're going to be so stupid as to get addicted to heroin or whatever. I finally got my mom to at least think about reconsidering her view on safe injection sites when I brought it home to her by telling her that the risk of her line cook at the bar & grill having hepatitis might not be desirable. But as for having zero sympathy or empathy about folks dying—seems much more boomer to me. At least in my experiences with younger millennials.
Of course I don't want to paint with some kind of totalizing brush—like that hack, Matisse, amiright?—but for a generation that's less religious and more pro-legalization than than older folks, I'm nevertheless struck when I come across that coldness towards addiction in young folk.
Yeah, it is weird. Are your students generally all from the same area, or do they come from all over?

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Kory wrote:
19 Nov 2017, 12:26am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
18 Nov 2017, 9:05pm
Of course I don't want to paint with some kind of totalizing brush—like that hack, Matisse, amiright?—but for a generation that's less religious and more pro-legalization than than older folks, I'm nevertheless struck when I come across that coldness towards addiction in young folk.
Yeah, it is weird. Are your students generally all from the same area, or do they come from all over?

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Yeah, they're mostly all from eastern ON.
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I played bar trivia last night and most of the teams were Millennials. None of them seemed to have a clue about anything that happened before 2001.

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
18 Nov 2017, 12:10pm
Are Millennials more hard hearted about this stuff? Does being wired up all the time on social media desensitize? I'm a pretty emotionally guarded person (does irritation count as an emotion?), but I'm taken aback at the near contempt of so many comments.
A few tangential thoughts —

There's probably some worthwhile research to be done on how Online encourages the expression of strong and visceral reactions over nuance and considered positions — especially when it comes to stuff like this. Like, it's perfectly reasonable to remain indifferent to Lil Peep's unfortunate demise.

Based on absolutely nothing, I suspect the Internet/social media reinforces the idea that you need to have an opinion on something. And if you're already kind of an asshole, this imperative intensifies your stupid opinions.

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Inder wrote:
19 Nov 2017, 4:25pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
18 Nov 2017, 12:10pm
Are Millennials more hard hearted about this stuff? Does being wired up all the time on social media desensitize? I'm a pretty emotionally guarded person (does irritation count as an emotion?), but I'm taken aback at the near contempt of so many comments.
A few tangential thoughts —

There's probably some worthwhile research to be done on how Online encourages the expression of strong and visceral reactions over nuance and considered positions — especially when it comes to stuff like this. Like, it's perfectly reasonable to remain indifferent to Lil Peep's unfortunate demise.

Based on absolutely nothing, I suspect the Internet/social media reinforces the idea that you need to have an opinion on something. And if you're already kind of an asshole, this imperative intensifies your stupid opinions.
That does seem reasonable—that being online mandates having an opinion that must be shared, and that having a strong or extreme view is confused with having a well-thought-out opinion. I remember calling out a person who said of a cyclist who was killed while riding on a busy road that they guy deserved to die. Deserved? The guy made a serious mistake but the just result was that he lost his life? I guess the Lil Peep example is along the same lines—he deserved to die, so why feel any sympathy? A harsh but virtuous meritocracy. :yuck:
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Inder wrote:
19 Nov 2017, 4:25pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
18 Nov 2017, 12:10pm
Are Millennials more hard hearted about this stuff? Does being wired up all the time on social media desensitize? I'm a pretty emotionally guarded person (does irritation count as an emotion?), but I'm taken aback at the near contempt of so many comments.
A few tangential thoughts —

There's probably some worthwhile research to be done on how Online encourages the expression of strong and visceral reactions over nuance and considered positions — especially when it comes to stuff like this. Like, it's perfectly reasonable to remain indifferent to Lil Peep's unfortunate demise.

Based on absolutely nothing, I suspect the Internet/social media reinforces the idea that you need to have an opinion on something. And if you're already kind of an asshole, this imperative intensifies your stupid opinions.
I guess it is hard to join in an online conversation without an opinion?

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101Walterton wrote:
19 Nov 2017, 8:37pm
Inder wrote:
19 Nov 2017, 4:25pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
18 Nov 2017, 12:10pm
Are Millennials more hard hearted about this stuff? Does being wired up all the time on social media desensitize? I'm a pretty emotionally guarded person (does irritation count as an emotion?), but I'm taken aback at the near contempt of so many comments.
A few tangential thoughts —

There's probably some worthwhile research to be done on how Online encourages the expression of strong and visceral reactions over nuance and considered positions — especially when it comes to stuff like this. Like, it's perfectly reasonable to remain indifferent to Lil Peep's unfortunate demise.

Based on absolutely nothing, I suspect the Internet/social media reinforces the idea that you need to have an opinion on something. And if you're already kind of an asshole, this imperative intensifies your stupid opinions.
I guess it is hard to join in an online conversation without an opinion?
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Kory wrote:
19 Nov 2017, 8:59pm
101Walterton wrote:
19 Nov 2017, 8:37pm
Inder wrote:
19 Nov 2017, 4:25pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
18 Nov 2017, 12:10pm
Are Millennials more hard hearted about this stuff? Does being wired up all the time on social media desensitize? I'm a pretty emotionally guarded person (does irritation count as an emotion?), but I'm taken aback at the near contempt of so many comments.
A few tangential thoughts —

There's probably some worthwhile research to be done on how Online encourages the expression of strong and visceral reactions over nuance and considered positions — especially when it comes to stuff like this. Like, it's perfectly reasonable to remain indifferent to Lil Peep's unfortunate demise.

Based on absolutely nothing, I suspect the Internet/social media reinforces the idea that you need to have an opinion on something. And if you're already kind of an asshole, this imperative intensifies your stupid opinions.
I guess it is hard to join in an online conversation without an opinion?
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Are you that person that goes to the trouble of entering an online poll and then answers ‘don’t know’ haha

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101Walterton wrote:
19 Nov 2017, 10:03pm
Kory wrote:
19 Nov 2017, 8:59pm
101Walterton wrote:
19 Nov 2017, 8:37pm
Inder wrote:
19 Nov 2017, 4:25pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
18 Nov 2017, 12:10pm
Are Millennials more hard hearted about this stuff? Does being wired up all the time on social media desensitize? I'm a pretty emotionally guarded person (does irritation count as an emotion?), but I'm taken aback at the near contempt of so many comments.
A few tangential thoughts —

There's probably some worthwhile research to be done on how Online encourages the expression of strong and visceral reactions over nuance and considered positions — especially when it comes to stuff like this. Like, it's perfectly reasonable to remain indifferent to Lil Peep's unfortunate demise.

Based on absolutely nothing, I suspect the Internet/social media reinforces the idea that you need to have an opinion on something. And if you're already kind of an asshole, this imperative intensifies your stupid opinions.
I guess it is hard to join in an online conversation without an opinion?
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Are you that person that goes to the trouble of entering an online poll and then answers ‘don’t know’ haha
That's how I spend 70% of my time. They need that information!
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