Is there a live retirement age for musicians?

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Re: Is there a live retirement age for musicians?

Post by Wolter » 06 Nov 2017, 10:21pm

My biggest three regrets are the Ramones, Mescaleros, and Bowie. Honestly, I never had much chances near me in SC with the latter two, but I missed the Ramones on three separate occasions. Each time I told myself, "they're the Ramones. They'll be back. They're always back." D'oh.
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Re: Is there a live retirement age for musicians?

Post by Heston » 06 Nov 2017, 10:36pm

I still regret I never saw Joe on the Rock Against the Rich tour when it came to Newcastle in 1988. I was distracted by a lady at the time, a similar story with BAD on the Tighten Up tour, that was the only gig of theirs in Newcastle that I missed.
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Re: Is there a live retirement age for musicians?

Post by 101Walterton » 07 Nov 2017, 2:08am

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Re: Is there a live retirement age for musicians?

Post by coffeepotman » 07 Nov 2017, 8:22am

Wolter wrote:
06 Nov 2017, 10:21pm
My biggest three regrets are the Ramones, Mescaleros, and Bowie. Honestly, I never had much chances near me in SC with the latter two, but I missed the Ramones on three separate occasions. Each time I told myself, "they're the Ramones. They'll be back. They're always back." D'oh.
That's rough, you missed 3 of the greats

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Re: Is there a live retirement age for musicians?

Post by Low Down Low » 07 Nov 2017, 8:35am

Regrets, I have a few: AC/DC, Thin Lizzy, Boomtown Rats, wasting good money on U2 after 1983, Bowie, the Stones, not seeing Rory Gallagher till he was ill and past it.

And most of all, living in London in 1988, on the corner of Elgin Av & Harrow Rd to be precise, and somehow not once seeing Joe, either in person or in concert though I did see him a few times with the Pogues in the 90s, which was something I suppose.

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Re: Is there a live retirement age for musicians?

Post by Marky Dread » 07 Nov 2017, 8:43am

101Walterton wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 2:08am
Bloody women the root of all evil.
As they are the ones who give birth to man I have to agree.
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Re: Is there a live retirement age for musicians?

Post by WestwayKid » 07 Nov 2017, 9:05am

coffeepotman wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 8:22am
Wolter wrote:
06 Nov 2017, 10:21pm
My biggest three regrets are the Ramones, Mescaleros, and Bowie. Honestly, I never had much chances near me in SC with the latter two, but I missed the Ramones on three separate occasions. Each time I told myself, "they're the Ramones. They'll be back. They're always back." D'oh.
That's rough, you missed 3 of the greats
I saw the Ramones on their final tour. They had slowed down a bit - but I recall it still being just a blast. It was at an outdoor "alternative" music festival and maybe the best part was at the end of the show the band exited the stage and since there wasn't really a backstage area - they had to walk on the other side of a chain link fence to get to their trailer and I was able to reach over and shake hands with Joey and Marky!

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Re: Is there a live retirement age for musicians?

Post by matedog » 07 Nov 2017, 11:22am

Wolter wrote:
06 Nov 2017, 10:21pm
My biggest three regrets are the Ramones, Mescaleros, and Bowie. Honestly, I never had much chances near me in SC with the latter two, but I missed the Ramones on three separate occasions. Each time I told myself, "they're the Ramones. They'll be back. They're always back." D'oh.
I still get a kick that I've seen Bowie live and you haven't. Not to rub it in your face, but that's some cruel irony. I do wish I was more familiar with his catalog when I saw him though.

Mescaleros is a big regret for me, though I wasn't a super fan at the time, so I'm not beating myself up too much about that. I feel like I'll regret not seeing Paul McCartney the many times I've had the opportunity to. I know there are some that I'm forgetting, but I've been fortunate enough to see a ton of bands over the years.
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Post by JennyB » 07 Nov 2017, 11:34am

I regret never seeing Bowie. I'm fortunate to have seen the Ramones, Meskies and BAD. I regret not seeing PIL in their prime. I saw them on the 120 Minutes tour, but that's it. I had tickets to a Tom Petty concert back in the 90s and ended up not being able to go, so that sucks.
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Re: Is there a live retirement age for musicians?

Post by 101Walterton » 07 Nov 2017, 2:25pm

Low Down Low wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 8:35am
Regrets, I have a few: AC/DC, Thin Lizzy, Boomtown Rats, wasting good money on U2 after 1983, Bowie, the Stones, not seeing Rory Gallagher till he was ill and past it.

And most of all, living in London in 1988, on the corner of Elgin Av & Harrow Rd to be precise, and somehow not once seeing Joe, either in person or in concert though I did see him a few times with the Pogues in the 90s, which was something I suppose.
Mate we were practically neighbours! In 88 I was living in Chippenham Road at the Shirland Road end, opposite Dominoes Pizza (although don’t think it had opened then) which is where 101 Walterton Road used to be.
You must have been living by the spieler on that corner?

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Post by Low Down Low » 07 Nov 2017, 3:11pm

101Walterton wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 2:25pm
Low Down Low wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 8:35am
Regrets, I have a few: AC/DC, Thin Lizzy, Boomtown Rats, wasting good money on U2 after 1983, Bowie, the Stones, not seeing Rory Gallagher till he was ill and past it.

And most of all, living in London in 1988, on the corner of Elgin Av & Harrow Rd to be precise, and somehow not once seeing Joe, either in person or in concert though I did see him a few times with the Pogues in the 90s, which was something I suppose.
Mate we were practically neighbours! In 88 I was living in Chippenham Road at the Shirland Road end, opposite Dominoes Pizza (although don’t think it had opened then) which is where 101 Walterton Road used to be.
You must have been living by the spieler on that corner?
Spieler as in gambling den? There was a Tote shop on the other side, maybe thats what your referring to? I was in one of the two big white tower blocks on Elgin, Chantry Point, with the pub just outside we preferred to avoid. They were good squats, very basic but clean, only problem was the heat came through the vents in summer and never figured a way of turning the damn things off.

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Re: Is there a live retirement age for musicians?

Post by 101Walterton » 07 Nov 2017, 3:43pm

Low Down Low wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 3:11pm
101Walterton wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 2:25pm
Low Down Low wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 8:35am
Regrets, I have a few: AC/DC, Thin Lizzy, Boomtown Rats, wasting good money on U2 after 1983, Bowie, the Stones, not seeing Rory Gallagher till he was ill and past it.

And most of all, living in London in 1988, on the corner of Elgin Av & Harrow Rd to be precise, and somehow not once seeing Joe, either in person or in concert though I did see him a few times with the Pogues in the 90s, which was something I suppose.
Mate we were practically neighbours! In 88 I was living in Chippenham Road at the Shirland Road end, opposite Dominoes Pizza (although don’t think it had opened then) which is where 101 Walterton Road used to be.
You must have been living by the spieler on that corner?
Spieler as in gambling den? There was a Tote shop on the other side, maybe thats what your referring to? I was in one of the two big white tower blocks on Elgin, Chantry Point, with the pub just outside we preferred to avoid. They were good squats, very basic but clean, only problem was the heat came through the vents in summer and never figured a way of turning the damn things off.
Ok I know where you mean.
The Spieler was in a basement right on the corner of Elgin where it meets Walterton Road. Used to host huge West Indian Blues parties. Metal Mickey (on cover of 101’ers album) used to sit on the wall outside.
I used to go to that pub (Elephant) when they were serving home made Irish stew, delicious.

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Re: Is there a live retirement age for musicians?

Post by Low Down Low » 07 Nov 2017, 6:39pm

101Walterton wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 3:43pm
Low Down Low wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 3:11pm
101Walterton wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 2:25pm
Low Down Low wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 8:35am
Regrets, I have a few: AC/DC, Thin Lizzy, Boomtown Rats, wasting good money on U2 after 1983, Bowie, the Stones, not seeing Rory Gallagher till he was ill and past it.

And most of all, living in London in 1988, on the corner of Elgin Av & Harrow Rd to be precise, and somehow not once seeing Joe, either in person or in concert though I did see him a few times with the Pogues in the 90s, which was something I suppose.
Mate we were practically neighbours! In 88 I was living in Chippenham Road at the Shirland Road end, opposite Dominoes Pizza (although don’t think it had opened then) which is where 101 Walterton Road used to be.
You must have been living by the spieler on that corner?
Spieler as in gambling den? There was a Tote shop on the other side, maybe thats what your referring to? I was in one of the two big white tower blocks on Elgin, Chantry Point, with the pub just outside we preferred to avoid. They were good squats, very basic but clean, only problem was the heat came through the vents in summer and never figured a way of turning the damn things off.
Ok I know where you mean.
The Spieler was in a basement right on the corner of Elgin where it meets Walterton Road. Used to host huge West Indian Blues parties. Metal Mickey (on cover of 101’ers album) used to sit on the wall outside.
I used to go to that pub (Elephant) when they were serving home made Irish stew, delicious.
That sounds exactly where i remember the Tote shop to be but my memory of late 80s/early 90s would not be the most reliable! Did that pub have a bad reputation, looked pretty grim from the outside anyway, not sure i ever darkened its door. There was an irish pub other side of the Harrow Rd (not the Prince of Wales) that served as the local, along with the one on the canal that was a little bit more upmarket, or as far as we were concerned anyway.

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Re: Is there a live retirement age for musicians?

Post by 101Walterton » 07 Nov 2017, 8:36pm

Low Down Low wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 6:39pm
101Walterton wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 3:43pm
Low Down Low wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 3:11pm
101Walterton wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 2:25pm
Low Down Low wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 8:35am
Regrets, I have a few: AC/DC, Thin Lizzy, Boomtown Rats, wasting good money on U2 after 1983, Bowie, the Stones, not seeing Rory Gallagher till he was ill and past it.

And most of all, living in London in 1988, on the corner of Elgin Av & Harrow Rd to be precise, and somehow not once seeing Joe, either in person or in concert though I did see him a few times with the Pogues in the 90s, which was something I suppose.
Mate we were practically neighbours! In 88 I was living in Chippenham Road at the Shirland Road end, opposite Dominoes Pizza (although don’t think it had opened then) which is where 101 Walterton Road used to be.
You must have been living by the spieler on that corner?
Spieler as in gambling den? There was a Tote shop on the other side, maybe thats what your referring to? I was in one of the two big white tower blocks on Elgin, Chantry Point, with the pub just outside we preferred to avoid. They were good squats, very basic but clean, only problem was the heat came through the vents in summer and never figured a way of turning the damn things off.
Ok I know where you mean.
The Spieler was in a basement right on the corner of Elgin where it meets Walterton Road. Used to host huge West Indian Blues parties. Metal Mickey (on cover of 101’ers album) used to sit on the wall outside.
I used to go to that pub (Elephant) when they were serving home made Irish stew, delicious.
That sounds exactly where i remember the Tote shop to be but my memory of late 80s/early 90s would not be the most reliable! Did that pub have a bad reputation, looked pretty grim from the outside anyway, not sure i ever darkened its door. There was an irish pub other side of the Harrow Rd (not the Prince of Wales) that served as the local, along with the one on the canal that was a little bit more upmarket, or as far as we were concerned anyway.
Yep was rough,think it was owned by 'the cause' ;) but the stew was good.
Was your local Angies? Just around the corner.
The pub by the canal was the Carlton Bridge which was frequented by our glorious leader Inder!!

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Re: Is there a live retirement age for musicians?

Post by Low Down Low » 08 Nov 2017, 5:17am

101Walterton wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 8:36pm
Low Down Low wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 6:39pm
101Walterton wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 3:43pm
Low Down Low wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 3:11pm
101Walterton wrote:
07 Nov 2017, 2:25pm


Mate we were practically neighbours! In 88 I was living in Chippenham Road at the Shirland Road end, opposite Dominoes Pizza (although don’t think it had opened then) which is where 101 Walterton Road used to be.
You must have been living by the spieler on that corner?
Spieler as in gambling den? There was a Tote shop on the other side, maybe thats what your referring to? I was in one of the two big white tower blocks on Elgin, Chantry Point, with the pub just outside we preferred to avoid. They were good squats, very basic but clean, only problem was the heat came through the vents in summer and never figured a way of turning the damn things off.
Ok I know where you mean.
The Spieler was in a basement right on the corner of Elgin where it meets Walterton Road. Used to host huge West Indian Blues parties. Metal Mickey (on cover of 101’ers album) used to sit on the wall outside.
I used to go to that pub (Elephant) when they were serving home made Irish stew, delicious.
That sounds exactly where i remember the Tote shop to be but my memory of late 80s/early 90s would not be the most reliable! Did that pub have a bad reputation, looked pretty grim from the outside anyway, not sure i ever darkened its door. There was an irish pub other side of the Harrow Rd (not the Prince of Wales) that served as the local, along with the one on the canal that was a little bit more upmarket, or as far as we were concerned anyway.
Yep was rough,think it was owned by 'the cause' ;) but the stew was good.
Was your local Angies? Just around the corner.
The pub by the canal was the Carlton Bridge which was frequented by our glorious leader Inder!!
I bet it was cheap too. I remember regularly going up to the Archway for a "builders" dinner in those days and you'd be fed and watered with change from a fiver. Last time I passed the Archway it was a Thai restaurant or something. I think it was Angies alright, but may have been called something else in those days? Spent a few lazy sundays in the Carlton but the 3-7 closing hours or whatever it was back then were horrendous.

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