Best Remote Control

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Which is the best version?

First album version
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Vanilla Tapes version
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33%
 
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Silent Majority wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 7:09pm
Fuck you, Huggy Bear
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4 songs CBS refused to release for some reason. :mrgreen:
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Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 5:19pm
My question is if not RC then what other track do you think would've made a good single.
"Janie Jones", pretty obvious to me. Eddie Cochran with distortion, what more do ya want?

And then peeps buy the album and - oh boy, these homies got something to say. But to get hooked in with a song about girls, real day to day "polytricks" and current pop culture, hey - can't go wrong there.
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muppet hi fi wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 7:48pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 5:19pm
My question is if not RC then what other track do you think would've made a good single.
"Janie Jones", pretty obvious to me. Eddie Cochran with distortion, what more do ya want?

And then peeps buy the album and - oh boy, these homies got something to say. But to get hooked in with a song about girls, real day to day "polytricks" and current pop culture, hey - can't go wrong there.
JJ was earmarked as the next single by the band if I'm not mistaken.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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muppet hi fi wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 7:48pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 5:19pm
My question is if not RC then what other track do you think would've made a good single.
"Janie Jones", pretty obvious to me. Eddie Cochran with distortion, what more do ya want?

And then peeps buy the album and - oh boy, these homies got something to say. But to get hooked in with a song about girls, real day to day "polytricks" and current pop culture, hey - can't go wrong there.
Agreed JJ is a great track mate. However I'm thinking it's 1977 JJ (Marion Mitchell) was still fresh in some peoples memory for her sex parties and 'controlling prostitutes' and how the record company might react to a song about a high classed madam. Wouldn't even surprise if some well known faces at CBS attended those parties (ooh playing devil's advocate) feels good some days. ;)
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I think Bored would have been good, but always liked the idea of non-album singles so my choice would have been Capital Radio though not sure CBS would have been down with that either.

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Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 5:19pm
Not really a fair comparison.
I know, one is a half-arsed run through, but Rattie seemed to think I was crazy for preferring the s/t version. I was trying to make the point that Hoyston isn't always wrong by default.
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Heston wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 8:26pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 7:48pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 5:19pm
My question is if not RC then what other track do you think would've made a good single.
"Janie Jones", pretty obvious to me. Eddie Cochran with distortion, what more do ya want?

And then peeps buy the album and - oh boy, these homies got something to say. But to get hooked in with a song about girls, real day to day "polytricks" and current pop culture, hey - can't go wrong there.
JJ was earmarked as the next single by the band if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah I think so mate. Couldn't see it getting a release though.
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Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 8:38pm
Heston wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 8:26pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 7:48pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 5:19pm
My question is if not RC then what other track do you think would've made a good single.
"Janie Jones", pretty obvious to me. Eddie Cochran with distortion, what more do ya want?

And then peeps buy the album and - oh boy, these homies got something to say. But to get hooked in with a song about girls, real day to day "polytricks" and current pop culture, hey - can't go wrong there.
JJ was earmarked as the next single by the band if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah I think so mate. Couldn't see it getting a release though.
God Save the Queen got to number one (aside from chart trickery by the establishment), I think just invoking the name of Janie Jones, high class pimpette, would have been okay.
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Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 5:19pm
Here's another point to discuss. The band didn't want CBS to release the single because they had already released "White Riot" however the single version of WR is not on the album when it came from the same sessions and maybe it should've been. Perhaps the Beaconsfield version should've been the single as a lot of folks prefer that. I prefer the single with the sirens.
Good point. I much prefer the Beaconsfield version so could have lived with that being the single. Then the album would have had a more uniform sound.
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Heston wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 8:46pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 5:19pm
Here's another point to discuss. The band didn't want CBS to release the single because they had already released "White Riot" however the single version of WR is not on the album when it came from the same sessions and maybe it should've been. Perhaps the Beaconsfield version should've been the single as a lot of folks prefer that. I prefer the single with the sirens.
Good point. I much prefer the Beaconsfield version so could have lived with that being the single. Then the album would have had a more uniform sound.
Yeah. I remember getting the import s/t in late '77 and, having read about "White Riot", thought it was a beast, all it was cracked up to be. Imagine my surprise when I got the 45 a year later and thought it was, as you Brits might say, a bit twee. (although I love the handclaps and Pauls walking bassline, which he never seemed to play live, maybe cause the band played it too bloody fast. Fucking Topper! :mrgreen: ).
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muppet hi fi wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 8:54pm
Heston wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 8:46pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 5:19pm
Here's another point to discuss. The band didn't want CBS to release the single because they had already released "White Riot" however the single version of WR is not on the album when it came from the same sessions and maybe it should've been. Perhaps the Beaconsfield version should've been the single as a lot of folks prefer that. I prefer the single with the sirens.
Good point. I much prefer the Beaconsfield version so could have lived with that being the single. Then the album would have had a more uniform sound.
Yeah. I remember getting the import s/t in late '77 and, having read about "White Riot", thought it was a beast, all it was cracked up to be. Imagine my surprise when I got the 45 a year later and thought it was, as you Brits might say, a bit twee. (although I love the handclaps and Pauls walking bassline, which he never seemed to play live, maybe cause the band played it too bloody fast. Fucking Topper! :mrgreen: ).
Yeah, the single version is just too nice.

I actually think White Riot is the best sounding song on the first album, everything should have sounded like this, raw as hell and urgent as fuck.
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Silent Majority wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 8:40pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 8:38pm
Heston wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 8:26pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 7:48pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 5:19pm
My question is if not RC then what other track do you think would've made a good single.
"Janie Jones", pretty obvious to me. Eddie Cochran with distortion, what more do ya want?

And then peeps buy the album and - oh boy, these homies got something to say. But to get hooked in with a song about girls, real day to day "polytricks" and current pop culture, hey - can't go wrong there.
JJ was earmarked as the next single by the band if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah I think so mate. Couldn't see it getting a release though.
God Save the Queen got to number one (aside from chart trickery by the establishment), I think just invoking the name of Janie Jones, high class pimpette, would have been okay.
He is love with getting stoned woaaah! I doubt the radio would play it. They didn't want GStQ on the radio either Peel played it late at night and it was discussed on Brian Wolf's Open Line radio program. So I expect CBS who were not one for getting their fingers burned would've wanted it. Of course this is pure conjecture on my part.
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Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 9:00pm
Silent Majority wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 8:40pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 8:38pm
Heston wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 8:26pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 7:48pm

"Janie Jones", pretty obvious to me. Eddie Cochran with distortion, what more do ya want?

And then peeps buy the album and - oh boy, these homies got something to say. But to get hooked in with a song about girls, real day to day "polytricks" and current pop culture, hey - can't go wrong there.
JJ was earmarked as the next single by the band if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah I think so mate. Couldn't see it getting a release though.
God Save the Queen got to number one (aside from chart trickery by the establishment), I think just invoking the name of Janie Jones, high class pimpette, would have been okay.
He is love with getting stoned woaaah! I doubt the radio would play it. They didn't want GStQ on the radio either Peel played it late at night and it was discussed on Brian Wolf's Open Line radio program. So I expect CBS who were not one for getting their fingers burned would've wanted it. Of course this is pure conjecture on my part.
Yeah, I guess that Sunday Morning Coming Down and Eight Miles High were less contentious because they didn't come from those spotty little punk rocker herberts.
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Silent Majority wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 9:13pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 9:00pm
Silent Majority wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 8:40pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 8:38pm
Heston wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 8:26pm


JJ was earmarked as the next single by the band if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah I think so mate. Couldn't see it getting a release though.
God Save the Queen got to number one (aside from chart trickery by the establishment), I think just invoking the name of Janie Jones, high class pimpette, would have been okay.
He is love with getting stoned woaaah! I doubt the radio would play it. They didn't want GStQ on the radio either Peel played it late at night and it was discussed on Brian Wolf's Open Line radio program. So I expect CBS who were not one for getting their fingers burned would've wanted it. Of course this is pure conjecture on my part.
Yeah, I guess that Sunday Morning Coming Down and Eight Miles High were less contentious because they didn't come from those spotty little punk rocker herberts.
Hey the BBC banned Space Oddity. So who knows but if something was current news that could offend then the Beeb in their holier than thou wisdom would ban it. If you brought attention to yourselves like the Pistols then you were sure to be banned until the dust settled. "All over news, spread fast. They're dirty, they're filthy. They ain't a gonna last".
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