I think you are probably correct mate. I think they should of at least used a different font colour or band and pulled the font down so it's not touching the bandDr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:41pmPerhaps the retro faux authenticity? That is, the label they were seeking to imitate might have done that for all their sleeves. Just a guess, tho.Marky Dread wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:34pmI like it with its 60's retro feel. Not sure about red band at the top. Can't really see the point of that as the typography is also a very similar colour.
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Yeah, drop the word "Memoirs" just a hair to put in the illusion of a black border.Marky Dread wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:50pmI think you are probably correct mate. I think they should of at least used a different font colour or band and pulled the font down so it's not touching the bandDr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:41pmPerhaps the retro faux authenticity? That is, the label they were seeking to imitate might have done that for all their sleeves. Just a guess, tho.Marky Dread wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:34pmI like it with its 60's retro feel. Not sure about red band at the top. Can't really see the point of that as the typography is also a very similar colour.
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Perfect. See how easy it is.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:56pmYeah, drop the word "Memoirs" just a hair to put in the illusion of a black border.Marky Dread wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:50pmI think you are probably correct mate. I think they should of at least used a different font colour or band and pulled the font down so it's not touching the bandDr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:41pmPerhaps the retro faux authenticity? That is, the label they were seeking to imitate might have done that for all their sleeves. Just a guess, tho.Marky Dread wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:34pmI like it with its 60's retro feel. Not sure about red band at the top. Can't really see the point of that as the typography is also a very similar colour.
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I find the above discussion fascinating because for years I've been asked why I don't try graphic design as a more stable career path, and when I say "because I'm an illustrator, not a designer. I have no idea how to design," I get blank stares. They are very different skill sets that some people happen to be able to balance. I do not have that balance.
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Maybe both you and Doc have a point about people with a good eye I never really give it a second thought.Wolter wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 5:11pmI find the above discussion fascinating because for years I've been asked why I don't try graphic design as a more stable career path, and when I say "because I'm an illustrator, not a designer. I have no idea how to design," I get blank stares. They are very different skill sets that some people happen to be able to balance. I do not have that balance.
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Even tho you know how to do a layout for your illustrations? I don't doubt that it's still different than graphic design, but it's interesting to me that there's still enough of a gap that you don't feel you have that skill.Wolter wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 5:11pmI find the above discussion fascinating because for years I've been asked why I don't try graphic design as a more stable career path, and when I say "because I'm an illustrator, not a designer. I have no idea how to design," I get blank stares. They are very different skill sets that some people happen to be able to balance. I do not have that balance.
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I can do basic composition, but font and color choices and proper informational display beyond simple narrative are not my strong points. I'm probably better than a total layman, but I'm not well versed in theory and techniques of design.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 5:17pmEven tho you know how to do a layout for your illustrations? I don't doubt that it's still different than graphic design, but it's interesting to me that there's still enough of a gap that you don't feel you have that skill.Wolter wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 5:11pmI find the above discussion fascinating because for years I've been asked why I don't try graphic design as a more stable career path, and when I say "because I'm an illustrator, not a designer. I have no idea how to design," I get blank stares. They are very different skill sets that some people happen to be able to balance. I do not have that balance.
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That's just it—recognizing that there's something distinct about a skill, that it's not necessarily elastic or transferable. My family doesn't understand when I tell them that I'm not much of a writer. Technically, sure, because I'm a copy editor I'm competent and can avoid common errors, but true writing injects a spirit into the text that brings it to life. And I don't have that. I can recognize that deficiency in my text but I can't fix it. Obviously it's good enough to fool people in academia, but I'd never be able to con a real writer.Wolter wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 6:30pmI can do basic composition, but font and color choices and proper informational display beyond simple narrative are not my strong points. I'm probably better than a total layman, but I'm not well versed in theory and techniques of design.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 5:17pmEven tho you know how to do a layout for your illustrations? I don't doubt that it's still different than graphic design, but it's interesting to me that there's still enough of a gap that you don't feel you have that skill.Wolter wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 5:11pmI find the above discussion fascinating because for years I've been asked why I don't try graphic design as a more stable career path, and when I say "because I'm an illustrator, not a designer. I have no idea how to design," I get blank stares. They are very different skill sets that some people happen to be able to balance. I do not have that balance.
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I gotta disagree with you guys on this one. I think a different color band would be too distracting on this duotone cover. My bigger beef is with the separating elements. The three items are so obviously already in their little pockets that drawing the rounded rectangles around them is overkill. I think having the title merge with the red band is a good solution for making things seem integrated again, but it wouldn't be necessary without the rectangles in the first place. Merging text with color bars in this way is a big design trick for promoting integration and interaction, but it doesn't always work. In this case, it's not my favorite, but I'm not as offended as you lot.Marky Dread wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 5:00pmPerfect. See how easy it is.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:56pmYeah, drop the word "Memoirs" just a hair to put in the illusion of a black border.Marky Dread wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:50pmI think you are probably correct mate. I think they should of at least used a different font colour or band and pulled the font down so it's not touching the bandDr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:41pmPerhaps the retro faux authenticity? That is, the label they were seeking to imitate might have done that for all their sleeves. Just a guess, tho.Marky Dread wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:34pmI like it with its 60's retro feel. Not sure about red band at the top. Can't really see the point of that as the typography is also a very similar colour.
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I don't know how familiar you are with the history of design, but was that kind of separation that called overkill common to the era?Kory wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 8:28pmI gotta disagree with you guys on this one. I think a different color band would be too distracting on this duotone cover. My bigger beef is with the separating elements. The three items are so obviously already in their little pockets that drawing the rounded rectangles around them is overkill. I think having the title merge with the red band is a good solution for making things seem integrated again, but it wouldn't be necessary without the rectangles in the first place. Merging text with color bars in this way is a big design trick for promoting integration and interaction, but it doesn't always work. In this case, it's not my favorite, but I'm not as offended as you lot.
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I wouldn't use another colour font to distract from the band. Unless it was a colour already used in the duotone. But the band is another shade of red and it doesn't work fork me merging with the font not allowing the font to stand out bold enough. You make a good point about the cramped boxes but that was a feature of those 60's style comps with a very busy looking cover leaving little if any space.Kory wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 8:28pmI gotta disagree with you guys on this one. I think a different color band would be too distracting on this duotone cover. My bigger beef is with the separating elements. The three items are so obviously already in their little pockets that drawing the rounded rectangles around them is overkill. I think having the title merge with the red band is a good solution for making things seem integrated again, but it wouldn't be necessary without the rectangles in the first place. Merging text with color bars in this way is a big design trick for promoting integration and interaction, but it doesn't always work. In this case, it's not my favorite, but I'm not as offended as you lot.Marky Dread wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 5:00pmPerfect. See how easy it is.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:56pmYeah, drop the word "Memoirs" just a hair to put in the illusion of a black border.Marky Dread wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:50pmI think you are probably correct mate. I think they should of at least used a different font colour or band and pulled the font down so it's not touching the bandDr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:41pm
Perhaps the retro faux authenticity? That is, the label they were seeking to imitate might have done that for all their sleeves. Just a guess, tho.
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In this case, I would say I agree with Kory, but would never have found the words he did to explain why.Kory wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 8:28pmI gotta disagree with you guys on this one. I think a different color band would be too distracting on this duotone cover. My bigger beef is with the separating elements. The three items are so obviously already in their little pockets that drawing the rounded rectangles around them is overkill. I think having the title merge with the red band is a good solution for making things seem integrated again, but it wouldn't be necessary without the rectangles in the first place. Merging text with color bars in this way is a big design trick for promoting integration and interaction, but it doesn't always work. In this case, it's not my favorite, but I'm not as offended as you lot.Marky Dread wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 5:00pmPerfect. See how easy it is.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:56pmYeah, drop the word "Memoirs" just a hair to put in the illusion of a black border.Marky Dread wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:50pmI think you are probably correct mate. I think they should of at least used a different font colour or band and pulled the font down so it's not touching the bandDr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:41pm
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OK so what I'm trying to say here is you swap the color of the band from the red to the off white and change the stereo hi-fidelity logo to the red along with the border lines.Marky Dread wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 8:39pmI wouldn't use another colour font to distract from the band. Unless it was a colour already used in the duotone. But the band is another shade of red and it doesn't work fork me merging with the font not allowing the font to stand out bold enough. You make a good point about the cramped boxes but that was a feature of those 60's style comps with a very busy looking cover leaving little if any space.Kory wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 8:28pmI gotta disagree with you guys on this one. I think a different color band would be too distracting on this duotone cover. My bigger beef is with the separating elements. The three items are so obviously already in their little pockets that drawing the rounded rectangles around them is overkill. I think having the title merge with the red band is a good solution for making things seem integrated again, but it wouldn't be necessary without the rectangles in the first place. Merging text with color bars in this way is a big design trick for promoting integration and interaction, but it doesn't always work. In this case, it's not my favorite, but I'm not as offended as you lot.Marky Dread wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 5:00pmPerfect. See how easy it is.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:56pmYeah, drop the word "Memoirs" just a hair to put in the illusion of a black border.Marky Dread wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:50pm
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Yeah, I think I could get on board with that. Except I'd still get rid of the boxes.Marky Dread wrote: ↑02 Nov 2017, 9:59amOK so what I'm trying to say here is you swap the color of the band from the red to the off white and change the stereo hi-fidelity logo to the red along with the border lines.Marky Dread wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 8:39pmI wouldn't use another colour font to distract from the band. Unless it was a colour already used in the duotone. But the band is another shade of red and it doesn't work fork me merging with the font not allowing the font to stand out bold enough. You make a good point about the cramped boxes but that was a feature of those 60's style comps with a very busy looking cover leaving little if any space.Kory wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 8:28pmI gotta disagree with you guys on this one. I think a different color band would be too distracting on this duotone cover. My bigger beef is with the separating elements. The three items are so obviously already in their little pockets that drawing the rounded rectangles around them is overkill. I think having the title merge with the red band is a good solution for making things seem integrated again, but it wouldn't be necessary without the rectangles in the first place. Merging text with color bars in this way is a big design trick for promoting integration and interaction, but it doesn't always work. In this case, it's not my favorite, but I'm not as offended as you lot.Marky Dread wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 5:00pmPerfect. See how easy it is.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:56pm
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It certainly does seem very '60s, but I can't explain why or think of another example of it. It may be that they were emulating a specific label, perhaps.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 8:33pmI don't know how familiar you are with the history of design, but was that kind of separation that called overkill common to the era?Kory wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 8:28pmI gotta disagree with you guys on this one. I think a different color band would be too distracting on this duotone cover. My bigger beef is with the separating elements. The three items are so obviously already in their little pockets that drawing the rounded rectangles around them is overkill. I think having the title merge with the red band is a good solution for making things seem integrated again, but it wouldn't be necessary without the rectangles in the first place. Merging text with color bars in this way is a big design trick for promoting integration and interaction, but it doesn't always work. In this case, it's not my favorite, but I'm not as offended as you lot.
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