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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Kory » 20 Oct 2017, 4:38pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 11:28am
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I don't yell when I snap. I go quiet. As long as I'm talking, things are okayish. My quiet can turn the air black around me. So it'd likely just be me stating matter-of-factly that if nobody is willing to make an effort, we're done for the day and that I'm hoping for better next time.
That actually sounds terrifying.
Ask this missus how awful it/I can be. It's a lousy approach and quality (inherited/learned from my dad) because it drags out a conflict and lets it fester when one person just withdraws and won't talk. It also means that when I don't have much on my mind and don't talk, B asks whether I'm pissed off at her.
I am also this way.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Dr. Medulla » 20 Oct 2017, 5:21pm

Kory wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 4:36pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
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I've pretty much given up hope that I have any critical thinkers in my group this year. Largely nice kids, but no consideration of the implication of their statements. Just reaction, mostly from personal experience and desire. So we just read a Marxist account of punk, metal, and other angry music since the late 60s. Meaning, of course, material conditions—i.e., neoliberalism—inspires art. Everyone was officially on board with that argument. Yup, it all makes sense, they agreed. Economic and social norms that dehumanize and make us see each other as competitors/predators first and foremost manifests amongst the "losers" a music of frustration and anger. All these budding Marxists under my nose all along! Anyway, I ended by asking, "If western nations are emerging from neoliberal dominance, whether it's a return to most welfare state capitalism or some kind of fascism, whereby the material conditions could change markedly, could that mean an end to punk?" Nope—there'll always be angry music like punk and metal. Which is to say, it exists outside of material conditions, that it's transhistorical. So then they don't buy the book's argument? Oh, yeah, they do. *sigh* I didn't want to end the class on a scolding note, but what the fuck? They'd make good proles, grateful that the chocolate rations have been raised from 75 grams to 65 grams.
It seems to me that a fascist society would give birth to a lot of punk music if it wasn't totally illegal—I can't see a lack of frustration and anger in that situation. Outside of that, is there evidence of countries that transition from one to the other lose or gain a significant amount of punk bands, or is the argument strictly academic?
Oh, it's wholly speculative. My question was just about them following the implications of a premise and whether they can see contradictions or interesting possibilities. I'm quite clear with them that most of what we talk about is bullshit in the real world. Its' about exercising critical skills, nothing more.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Dr. Medulla » 20 Oct 2017, 6:29pm

BTW, my group was much better this week. Conversation flowed more organically and they got hit with some questions about art and capitalism and the viability of humanism. Plus someone took a shot at Morrissey's ego. Put that in the win column.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Kory » 20 Oct 2017, 7:20pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 6:29pm
BTW, my group was much better this week. Conversation flowed more organically and they got hit with some questions about art and capitalism and the viability of humanism. Plus someone took a shot at Morrissey's ego. Put that in the win column.
Talk about low hanging fruit.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Dr. Medulla » 20 Oct 2017, 7:24pm

Kory wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 7:20pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 6:29pm
BTW, my group was much better this week. Conversation flowed more organically and they got hit with some questions about art and capitalism and the viability of humanism. Plus someone took a shot at Morrissey's ego. Put that in the win column.
Talk about low hanging fruit.
I subsist on low-hanging fruit. Otherwise I'd starve.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Kory » 20 Oct 2017, 7:35pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 7:24pm
Kory wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 7:20pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 6:29pm
BTW, my group was much better this week. Conversation flowed more organically and they got hit with some questions about art and capitalism and the viability of humanism. Plus someone took a shot at Morrissey's ego. Put that in the win column.
Talk about low hanging fruit.
I subsist on low-hanging fruit. Otherwise I'd starve.
I had to throw away a Bosc pear today because I waited too long to eat it and it was starting to look questionable.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Dr. Medulla » 20 Oct 2017, 7:40pm

Kory wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 7:35pm
I had to throw away a Bosc pear today because I waited too long to eat it and it was starting to look questionable.
I just don't like pears. They taste fine, but the texture is all wrong for me. Kinda gritty, kinda crumbly, which ain't right for fruit. Probably 80% of the foods I don't care for are about how they feel in my mouth, not the taste.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Kory » 20 Oct 2017, 8:14pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 7:40pm
Kory wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 7:35pm
I had to throw away a Bosc pear today because I waited too long to eat it and it was starting to look questionable.
I just don't like pears. They taste fine, but the texture is all wrong for me. Kinda gritty, kinda crumbly, which ain't right for fruit. Probably 80% of the foods I don't care for are about how they feel in my mouth, not the taste.
I can see that. How do you feel about super ripe plums?
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by revbob » 20 Oct 2017, 8:24pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 7:40pm
Kory wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 7:35pm
I had to throw away a Bosc pear today because I waited too long to eat it and it was starting to look questionable.
I just don't like pears. They taste fine, but the texture is all wrong for me. Kinda gritty, kinda crumbly, which ain't right for fruit. Probably 80% of the foods I don't care for are about how they feel in my mouth, not the taste.
I had some kind of fancy pears one time from one of those holiday gift boxes and they were amazing. Perfect uniform texture and tasted something like a perfect peach just incredible unlike any other pear Ive had before or since.

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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Dr. Medulla » 20 Oct 2017, 8:29pm

Kory wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 8:14pm
I can see that. How do you feel about super ripe plums?
Plums are usually good, tho I never think about them (not exactly a go-to fruit). But taste and texture are both fine.
revbob wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 8:24pm
I had some kind of fancy pears one time from one of those holiday gift boxes and they were amazing. Perfect uniform texture and tasted something like a perfect peach just incredible unlike any other pear Ive had before or since.
And that's why I'd never write off pears. The taste is appealing enough that if I could find one with better texture I'd be quite happy.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Kory » 21 Oct 2017, 9:49pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 8:29pm
Kory wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 8:14pm
I can see that. How do you feel about super ripe plums?
Plums are usually good, tho I never think about them (not exactly a go-to fruit). But taste and texture are both fine.
revbob wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 8:24pm
I had some kind of fancy pears one time from one of those holiday gift boxes and they were amazing. Perfect uniform texture and tasted something like a perfect peach just incredible unlike any other pear Ive had before or since.
And that's why I'd never write off pears. The taste is appealing enough that if I could find one with better texture I'd be quite happy.
Now I'm curious about your fruit preferences.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Dr. Medulla » 22 Oct 2017, 6:51am

Kory wrote:
21 Oct 2017, 9:49pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 8:29pm
Kory wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 8:14pm
I can see that. How do you feel about super ripe plums?
Plums are usually good, tho I never think about them (not exactly a go-to fruit). But taste and texture are both fine.
revbob wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 8:24pm
I had some kind of fancy pears one time from one of those holiday gift boxes and they were amazing. Perfect uniform texture and tasted something like a perfect peach just incredible unlike any other pear Ive had before or since.
And that's why I'd never write off pears. The taste is appealing enough that if I could find one with better texture I'd be quite happy.
Now I'm curious about your fruit preferences.
• Mandarin oranges. We used to call them Christmas oranges (and *wince* Jap oranges) when I was a kid because they're only available Nov–Jan. The smaller ones are so tangy delicious.
• Cherries
• Spartan apples
• Any seedless grapes
• Bananas
• Watermelon
• Cantaloupe
• Pretty much any berry. Not sure I can think of a berry that I don't like. Everyone from Saskatchewan is supposed to drool over Saskatoon berries, and they are good, but they aren't *that* amazing.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Kory » 23 Oct 2017, 12:41pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
22 Oct 2017, 6:51am
Kory wrote:
21 Oct 2017, 9:49pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 8:29pm
Kory wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 8:14pm
I can see that. How do you feel about super ripe plums?
Plums are usually good, tho I never think about them (not exactly a go-to fruit). But taste and texture are both fine.
revbob wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 8:24pm
I had some kind of fancy pears one time from one of those holiday gift boxes and they were amazing. Perfect uniform texture and tasted something like a perfect peach just incredible unlike any other pear Ive had before or since.
And that's why I'd never write off pears. The taste is appealing enough that if I could find one with better texture I'd be quite happy.
Now I'm curious about your fruit preferences.
• Mandarin oranges. We used to call them Christmas oranges (and *wince* Jap oranges) when I was a kid because they're only available Nov–Jan. The smaller ones are so tangy delicious.
• Cherries
• Spartan apples
• Any seedless grapes
• Bananas
• Watermelon
• Cantaloupe
• Pretty much any berry. Not sure I can think of a berry that I don't like. Everyone from Saskatchewan is supposed to drool over Saskatoon berries, and they are good, but they aren't *that* amazing.
I endorse these choices.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Dr. Medulla » 26 Oct 2017, 2:24pm

Student wants to write about Altamont. Okay.
Student wants to exonerate the Hell's Angels for stopping a catastrophe (Hunter was armed when they murdered him). Oh Christ. So now I'm wondering if the student has biker connections and/or is a racist because, you know, this is fucking crazy.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by eumaas » 26 Oct 2017, 2:27pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
26 Oct 2017, 2:24pm
Student wants to write about Altamont. Okay.
Student wants to exonerate the Hell's Angels for stopping a catastrophe (Hunter was armed when they murdered him). Oh Christ. So now I'm wondering if the student has biker connections and/or is a racist because, you know, this is fucking crazy.
my friend's dad founded the Canadian branch of the Hells Angels.
"The only thing that really occurs to me that I can say on this is to point out how fascinating it is that the Hassan-i-Sabbah archetype keeps turning up over and over again ... He disappears up into the mountains and is never seen again. Believe me, he'll never be seen again. He'll live forever because of that."

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