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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by JennyB » 17 Oct 2017, 11:32am

Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 11:28am
JennyB wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 11:15am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 10:45am
I don't yell when I snap. I go quiet. As long as I'm talking, things are okayish. My quiet can turn the air black around me. So it'd likely just be me stating matter-of-factly that if nobody is willing to make an effort, we're done for the day and that I'm hoping for better next time.
That actually sounds terrifying.
Ask this missus how awful it/I can be. It's a lousy approach and quality (inherited/learned from my dad) because it drags out a conflict and lets it fester when one person just withdraws and won't talk. It also means that when I don't have much on my mind and don't talk, B asks whether I'm pissed off at her.
You would be good at the old "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed" missive.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Dr. Medulla » 17 Oct 2017, 11:38am

JennyB wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 11:32am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 11:28am
JennyB wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 11:15am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 10:45am
I don't yell when I snap. I go quiet. As long as I'm talking, things are okayish. My quiet can turn the air black around me. So it'd likely just be me stating matter-of-factly that if nobody is willing to make an effort, we're done for the day and that I'm hoping for better next time.
That actually sounds terrifying.
Ask this missus how awful it/I can be. It's a lousy approach and quality (inherited/learned from my dad) because it drags out a conflict and lets it fester when one person just withdraws and won't talk. It also means that when I don't have much on my mind and don't talk, B asks whether I'm pissed off at her.
You would be good at the old "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed" missive.
Which, bringing it all back, is how I feel about this group of students. I'm not angry at them, just disappointed that they aren't taking advantage of the nice big ol' playground I've built for them. Run around, dream big things, don't just sit on the edges staring at your feet.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by JennyB » 17 Oct 2017, 12:25pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 11:38am
JennyB wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 11:32am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 11:28am
JennyB wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 11:15am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 10:45am
I don't yell when I snap. I go quiet. As long as I'm talking, things are okayish. My quiet can turn the air black around me. So it'd likely just be me stating matter-of-factly that if nobody is willing to make an effort, we're done for the day and that I'm hoping for better next time.
That actually sounds terrifying.
Ask this missus how awful it/I can be. It's a lousy approach and quality (inherited/learned from my dad) because it drags out a conflict and lets it fester when one person just withdraws and won't talk. It also means that when I don't have much on my mind and don't talk, B asks whether I'm pissed off at her.
You would be good at the old "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed" missive.
Which, bringing it all back, is how I feel about this group of students. I'm not angry at them, just disappointed that they aren't taking advantage of the nice big ol' playground I've built for them. Run around, dream big things, don't just sit on the edges staring at your feet.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by eumaas » 17 Oct 2017, 2:29pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 10:45am
So it'd likely just be me stating matter-of-factly that if nobody is willing to make an effort, we're done for the day and that I'm hoping for better next time.
My friend did this a couple weeks back. Let out class 15 minutes early as a consequence.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Dr. Medulla » 17 Oct 2017, 2:49pm

eumaas wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 2:29pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 10:45am
So it'd likely just be me stating matter-of-factly that if nobody is willing to make an effort, we're done for the day and that I'm hoping for better next time.
My friend did this a couple weeks back. Let out class 15 minutes early as a consequence.
Did it have a positive effect the next class?
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by eumaas » 17 Oct 2017, 3:21pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 2:49pm
eumaas wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 2:29pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 10:45am
So it'd likely just be me stating matter-of-factly that if nobody is willing to make an effort, we're done for the day and that I'm hoping for better next time.
My friend did this a couple weeks back. Let out class 15 minutes early as a consequence.
Did it have a positive effect the next class?
I think the main problem was that he picked an incredibly boring article that featured little argument as the next class had an article with a lot more substance and participation was fine. The boring article was a survey of early Italian cinema and made little claims, just a factual account. Not much to discuss.
"The only thing that really occurs to me that I can say on this is to point out how fascinating it is that the Hassan-i-Sabbah archetype keeps turning up over and over again ... He disappears up into the mountains and is never seen again. Believe me, he'll never be seen again. He'll live forever because of that."

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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Dr. Medulla » 17 Oct 2017, 3:24pm

eumaas wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 3:21pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 2:49pm
eumaas wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 2:29pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Oct 2017, 10:45am
So it'd likely just be me stating matter-of-factly that if nobody is willing to make an effort, we're done for the day and that I'm hoping for better next time.
My friend did this a couple weeks back. Let out class 15 minutes early as a consequence.
Did it have a positive effect the next class?
I think the main problem was that he picked an incredibly boring article that featured little argument as the next class had an article with a lot more substance and participation was fine. The boring article was a survey of early Italian cinema and made little claims, just a factual account. Not much to discuss.
Well, maybe he should be like me and pick nothing but gold! :shifty:
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Dr. Medulla » 20 Oct 2017, 6:55am

A prof with whom I share some students in common told me that one of them refers to me as Billy Corgan. I really hope that's just a bald reference because, well, sharing other qualities would be a massive kick in the gut. :yuck:
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by JennyB » 20 Oct 2017, 9:20am

Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 6:55am
A prof with whom I share some students in common told me that one of them refers to me as Billy Corgan. I really hope that's just a bald reference because, well, sharing other qualities would be a massive kick in the gut. :yuck:
I'm so, so sorry to hear your terrible news.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Dr. Medulla » 20 Oct 2017, 9:22am

JennyB wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 9:20am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 6:55am
A prof with whom I share some students in common told me that one of them refers to me as Billy Corgan. I really hope that's just a bald reference because, well, sharing other qualities would be a massive kick in the gut. :yuck:
I'm so, so sorry to hear your terrible news.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by JennyB » 20 Oct 2017, 9:45am

Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 9:22am
JennyB wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 9:20am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 6:55am
A prof with whom I share some students in common told me that one of them refers to me as Billy Corgan. I really hope that's just a bald reference because, well, sharing other qualities would be a massive kick in the gut. :yuck:
I'm so, so sorry to hear your terrible news.
Everyone in the class is getting a single-letter grade reduction until the culprits admit their crime!
They are getting off easy.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by eumaas » 20 Oct 2017, 11:38am

Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 6:55am
A prof with whom I share some students in common told me that one of them refers to me as Billy Corgan. I really hope that's just a bald reference because, well, sharing other qualities would be a massive kick in the gut. :yuck:
Everybody gets a D until the counterrevolutionary wrecker is identified.
"The only thing that really occurs to me that I can say on this is to point out how fascinating it is that the Hassan-i-Sabbah archetype keeps turning up over and over again ... He disappears up into the mountains and is never seen again. Believe me, he'll never be seen again. He'll live forever because of that."

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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Dr. Medulla » 20 Oct 2017, 12:08pm

eumaas wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 11:38am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 6:55am
A prof with whom I share some students in common told me that one of them refers to me as Billy Corgan. I really hope that's just a bald reference because, well, sharing other qualities would be a massive kick in the gut. :yuck:
Everybody gets a D until the counterrevolutionary wrecker is identified.
About a third of them wouldn't see their grade change if that's the case.
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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by eumaas » 20 Oct 2017, 4:06pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 12:08pm
eumaas wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 11:38am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Oct 2017, 6:55am
A prof with whom I share some students in common told me that one of them refers to me as Billy Corgan. I really hope that's just a bald reference because, well, sharing other qualities would be a massive kick in the gut. :yuck:
Everybody gets a D until the counterrevolutionary wrecker is identified.
About a third of them wouldn't see their grade change if that's the case.
Damn. Bad crop.
"The only thing that really occurs to me that I can say on this is to point out how fascinating it is that the Hassan-i-Sabbah archetype keeps turning up over and over again ... He disappears up into the mountains and is never seen again. Believe me, he'll never be seen again. He'll live forever because of that."

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Re: Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School

Post by Kory » 20 Oct 2017, 4:36pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Oct 2017, 8:11am
I've pretty much given up hope that I have any critical thinkers in my group this year. Largely nice kids, but no consideration of the implication of their statements. Just reaction, mostly from personal experience and desire. So we just read a Marxist account of punk, metal, and other angry music since the late 60s. Meaning, of course, material conditions—i.e., neoliberalism—inspires art. Everyone was officially on board with that argument. Yup, it all makes sense, they agreed. Economic and social norms that dehumanize and make us see each other as competitors/predators first and foremost manifests amongst the "losers" a music of frustration and anger. All these budding Marxists under my nose all along! Anyway, I ended by asking, "If western nations are emerging from neoliberal dominance, whether it's a return to most welfare state capitalism or some kind of fascism, whereby the material conditions could change markedly, could that mean an end to punk?" Nope—there'll always be angry music like punk and metal. Which is to say, it exists outside of material conditions, that it's transhistorical. So then they don't buy the book's argument? Oh, yeah, they do. *sigh* I didn't want to end the class on a scolding note, but what the fuck? They'd make good proles, grateful that the chocolate rations have been raised from 75 grams to 65 grams.
It seems to me that a fascist society would give birth to a lot of punk music if it wasn't totally illegal—I can't see a lack of frustration and anger in that situation. Outside of that, is there evidence of countries that transition from one to the other lose or gain a significant amount of punk bands, or is the argument strictly academic?
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