The Sacking of Mick Jones

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Re: The Sacking of Mick Jones

Post by dave202 » 09 Oct 2017, 10:56am

What about when one by one, three members of Killing Joke left, leaving Youth as the only one still in the band, then they reformed the following week without him?

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Re: The Sacking of Mick Jones

Post by WestwayKid » 09 Oct 2017, 11:08am

Interesting that many of the bands mentioned managed to keep going and even thrive. Sabbath only called it quits this year. Echo came back - with Ian. Even Glen made it back with the Pistols, ha!

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Re: The Sacking of Mick Jones

Post by WestwayKid » 09 Oct 2017, 11:11am

dave202 wrote:
09 Oct 2017, 10:56am
What about when one by one, three members of Killing Joke left, leaving Youth as the only one still in the band, then they reformed the following week without him?
Classic story! Youth eventually made it back into KJ. I wonder if Mick would have eventually rejoined the Clash if they had managed to stick around long enough?

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Re: The Sacking of Mick Jones

Post by dave202 » 09 Oct 2017, 1:39pm

WestwayKid wrote:
09 Oct 2017, 11:11am
dave202 wrote:
09 Oct 2017, 10:56am
What about when one by one, three members of Killing Joke left, leaving Youth as the only one still in the band, then they reformed the following week without him?
Classic story! Youth eventually made it back into KJ. I wonder if Mick would have eventually rejoined the Clash if they had managed to stick around long enough?
When Mick and Joe had made up didn't BAD being on the go stop that thought? I've always believed that ending The Clash II allowed both to work together again, free of any pressure, hence No.10 Uping Street.

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Re: The Sacking of Mick Jones

Post by Silent Majority » 10 Oct 2017, 8:35am

daredevil wrote:
09 Oct 2017, 10:37am
I can't remember Did the Pogues sack Shane Macgowan or did he leave on his own? if he did get sacked that would be one.
Edit: Just remembered the band had a good reason for sacking him.
Look. We've all fallen drunkenly off bullet trains in Tokyo. That's hardly a good reason.
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Re: The Sacking of Mick Jones

Post by Marky Dread » 10 Oct 2017, 3:17pm

WestwayKid wrote:
09 Oct 2017, 11:08am
Interesting that many of the bands mentioned managed to keep going and even thrive. Sabbath only called it quits this year. Echo came back - with Ian. Even Glen made it back with the Pistols, ha!
Hugh Cornwell left The Stranglers in 1990 and the band have survived extremely well. Now with their third vocalist and just announced their 2018 tour. They are still worthy of going to see.

The Undertones without Feargal.

I think in the case of Mick Jones his being the true tunesmith of the band killed The Clash. Joe wasn't half the musician Mick was and Mick was really inventive and always more appreciative of new sounds.
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Re: The Sacking of Mick Jones

Post by Heston » 10 Oct 2017, 6:34pm

Marky Dread wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 3:17pm
WestwayKid wrote:
09 Oct 2017, 11:08am
Interesting that many of the bands mentioned managed to keep going and even thrive. Sabbath only called it quits this year. Echo came back - with Ian. Even Glen made it back with the Pistols, ha!
Hugh Cornwell left The Stranglers in 1990 and the band have survived extremely well. Now with their third vocalist and just announced their 2018 tour. They are still worthy of going to see.

The Undertones without Feargal.

I think in the case of Mick Jones his being the true tunesmith of the band killed The Clash. Joe wasn't half the musician Mick was and Mick was really inventive and always more appreciative of new sounds.
I'm honestly surprised CtC was as tuneful as it was. But they certainly missed Mick's ear for what was hip. He nailed it with TIBAD and left the Clash looking even worse. It was a strange coincidence that those LP's got released the same week, is it worthy of a conspiracy theory?
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Re: The Sacking of Mick Jones

Post by Silent Majority » 10 Oct 2017, 6:42pm

Heston wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 6:34pm
Marky Dread wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 3:17pm
WestwayKid wrote:
09 Oct 2017, 11:08am
Interesting that many of the bands mentioned managed to keep going and even thrive. Sabbath only called it quits this year. Echo came back - with Ian. Even Glen made it back with the Pistols, ha!
Hugh Cornwell left The Stranglers in 1990 and the band have survived extremely well. Now with their third vocalist and just announced their 2018 tour. They are still worthy of going to see.

The Undertones without Feargal.

I think in the case of Mick Jones his being the true tunesmith of the band killed The Clash. Joe wasn't half the musician Mick was and Mick was really inventive and always more appreciative of new sounds.
I'm honestly surprised CtC was as tuneful as it was. But they certainly missed Mick's ear for what was hip. He nailed it with TIBAD and left the Clash looking even worse. It was a strange coincidence that those LP's got released the same week, is it worthy of a conspiracy theory?
I would blame Bernie for that, if a choice was made.
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Re: The Sacking of Mick Jones

Post by Dr. Medulla » 10 Oct 2017, 6:47pm

Silent Majority wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 6:42pm
Heston wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 6:34pm
Marky Dread wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 3:17pm
WestwayKid wrote:
09 Oct 2017, 11:08am
Interesting that many of the bands mentioned managed to keep going and even thrive. Sabbath only called it quits this year. Echo came back - with Ian. Even Glen made it back with the Pistols, ha!
Hugh Cornwell left The Stranglers in 1990 and the band have survived extremely well. Now with their third vocalist and just announced their 2018 tour. They are still worthy of going to see.

The Undertones without Feargal.

I think in the case of Mick Jones his being the true tunesmith of the band killed The Clash. Joe wasn't half the musician Mick was and Mick was really inventive and always more appreciative of new sounds.
I'm honestly surprised CtC was as tuneful as it was. But they certainly missed Mick's ear for what was hip. He nailed it with TIBAD and left the Clash looking even worse. It was a strange coincidence that those LP's got released the same week, is it worthy of a conspiracy theory?
I would blame Bernie for that, if a choice was made.
How much influence do bands have on release schedules? I suppose managers would be involved and, yeah, Bernie's deluded enough that he'd think that his album would definitely be better than Mick's. The Clash had a name recognition advantage but what else?
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Re: The Sacking of Mick Jones

Post by Silent Majority » 10 Oct 2017, 7:31pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 6:47pm
Silent Majority wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 6:42pm
Heston wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 6:34pm
Marky Dread wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 3:17pm
WestwayKid wrote:
09 Oct 2017, 11:08am
Interesting that many of the bands mentioned managed to keep going and even thrive. Sabbath only called it quits this year. Echo came back - with Ian. Even Glen made it back with the Pistols, ha!
Hugh Cornwell left The Stranglers in 1990 and the band have survived extremely well. Now with their third vocalist and just announced their 2018 tour. They are still worthy of going to see.

The Undertones without Feargal.

I think in the case of Mick Jones his being the true tunesmith of the band killed The Clash. Joe wasn't half the musician Mick was and Mick was really inventive and always more appreciative of new sounds.
I'm honestly surprised CtC was as tuneful as it was. But they certainly missed Mick's ear for what was hip. He nailed it with TIBAD and left the Clash looking even worse. It was a strange coincidence that those LP's got released the same week, is it worthy of a conspiracy theory?
I would blame Bernie for that, if a choice was made.
How much influence do bands have on release schedules? I suppose managers would be involved and, yeah, Bernie's deluded enough that he'd think that his album would definitely be better than Mick's. The Clash had a name recognition advantage but what else?
Yeah, I think CTC was sat on for a good stretch after having been recorded too.
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Re: The Sacking of Mick Jones

Post by Inder » 10 Oct 2017, 7:32pm

Silent Majority wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 7:31pm

CTC was sat on
Not hard enough.

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Re: The Sacking of Mick Jones

Post by Silent Majority » 10 Oct 2017, 7:33pm

Inder wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 7:32pm
Silent Majority wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 7:31pm

CTC was sat on
Not hard enough.
Or too hard?
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Re: The Sacking of Mick Jones

Post by Dr. Medulla » 10 Oct 2017, 7:40pm

Silent Majority wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 7:33pm
Inder wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 7:32pm
Silent Majority wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 7:31pm

CTC was sat on
Not hard enough.
Or too hard?
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Re: The Sacking of Mick Jones

Post by Kory » 10 Oct 2017, 7:51pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 6:47pm
Silent Majority wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 6:42pm
Heston wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 6:34pm
Marky Dread wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 3:17pm
WestwayKid wrote:
09 Oct 2017, 11:08am
Interesting that many of the bands mentioned managed to keep going and even thrive. Sabbath only called it quits this year. Echo came back - with Ian. Even Glen made it back with the Pistols, ha!
Hugh Cornwell left The Stranglers in 1990 and the band have survived extremely well. Now with their third vocalist and just announced their 2018 tour. They are still worthy of going to see.

The Undertones without Feargal.

I think in the case of Mick Jones his being the true tunesmith of the band killed The Clash. Joe wasn't half the musician Mick was and Mick was really inventive and always more appreciative of new sounds.
I'm honestly surprised CtC was as tuneful as it was. But they certainly missed Mick's ear for what was hip. He nailed it with TIBAD and left the Clash looking even worse. It was a strange coincidence that those LP's got released the same week, is it worthy of a conspiracy theory?
I would blame Bernie for that, if a choice was made.
How much influence do bands have on release schedules? I suppose managers would be involved and, yeah, Bernie's deluded enough that he'd think that his album would definitely be better than Mick's. The Clash had a name recognition advantage but what else?
I think the labels are pretty much the final word on that stuff, as I imagine it's all based on fiscal quarters, marketing campaigns, and all that crap.
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Re: The Sacking of Mick Jones

Post by Marky Dread » 11 Oct 2017, 7:28am

Kory wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 7:51pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 6:47pm
Silent Majority wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 6:42pm
Heston wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 6:34pm
Marky Dread wrote:
10 Oct 2017, 3:17pm


Hugh Cornwell left The Stranglers in 1990 and the band have survived extremely well. Now with their third vocalist and just announced their 2018 tour. They are still worthy of going to see.

The Undertones without Feargal.

I think in the case of Mick Jones his being the true tunesmith of the band killed The Clash. Joe wasn't half the musician Mick was and Mick was really inventive and always more appreciative of new sounds.
I'm honestly surprised CtC was as tuneful as it was. But they certainly missed Mick's ear for what was hip. He nailed it with TIBAD and left the Clash looking even worse. It was a strange coincidence that those LP's got released the same week, is it worthy of a conspiracy theory?
I would blame Bernie for that, if a choice was made.
How much influence do bands have on release schedules? I suppose managers would be involved and, yeah, Bernie's deluded enough that he'd think that his album would definitely be better than Mick's. The Clash had a name recognition advantage but what else?
I think the labels are pretty much the final word on that stuff, as I imagine it's all based on fiscal quarters, marketing campaigns, and all that crap.
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