'Murica.101Walterton wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 2:23pmWhy?matedog wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 10:35amReading some other forums, people are saying it was likely "bump firing" (ie not an automatic rifle) due to inconsistent rate of fire:revbob wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 9:15amI just heard audio of this and its pretty gut wrenching. The pace of the shooting would seem to indicate it was an automatic weapon. There will be expressions of thoughts and prayers but ultimately like you said will somehow be a win for gun nutsDr. Medulla wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 7:54amThat the record for deadliest mass shooting in the US would be broken in just over a year doesn't surprise me. That's fucking depressing. That this will also be a shrug and probably also a bump in gun sales is also fucking depressing. Price of freedom and all that shit, right?
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Crying eagles, fears of non-whites, and lust for profits.Rat Patrol wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 4:08pm'Murica.101Walterton wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 2:23pmWhy?matedog wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 10:35amReading some other forums, people are saying it was likely "bump firing" (ie not an automatic rifle) due to inconsistent rate of fire:revbob wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 9:15amI just heard audio of this and its pretty gut wrenching. The pace of the shooting would seem to indicate it was an automatic weapon. There will be expressions of thoughts and prayers but ultimately like you said will somehow be a win for gun nutsDr. Medulla wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 7:54amThat the record for deadliest mass shooting in the US would be broken in just over a year doesn't surprise me. That's fucking depressing. That this will also be a shrug and probably also a bump in gun sales is also fucking depressing. Price of freedom and all that shit, right?
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Correct me if I am wrong however is there any functional reason at all to fire a gun like that other than because you are a complete wanker and it makes your twat mate wet his pants?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 4:35pmCrying eagles, fears of non-whites, and lust for profits.Rat Patrol wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 4:08pm'Murica.101Walterton wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 2:23pmWhy?
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Freedom and fear of non-whites/women/homosexuals/non-Christians. But mostly freedom.101Walterton wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 7:37pmCorrect me if I am wrong however is there any functional reason at all to fire a gun like that other than because you are a complete wanker and it makes your twat mate wet his pants?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 4:35pmCrying eagles, fears of non-whites, and lust for profits.
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Yeah I get that but, if you lined up the non whites, women, homosexuals, non Christians and model train enthusiasts the chances of you hitting any of them with a bullet firing like that are minimal.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 8:03pmFreedom and fear of non-whites/women/homosexuals/non-Christians. But mostly freedom.101Walterton wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 7:37pmCorrect me if I am wrong however is there any functional reason at all to fire a gun like that other than because you are a complete wanker and it makes your twat mate wet his pants?
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I’ve gone target shooting and have to admit that it’s damn fun. I’m not for a total ban but there’s no reason a private citizen needs anything more than a bolt action hunting rifle.101Walterton wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 8:42pmYeah I get that but, if you lined up the non whites, women, homosexuals, non Christians and model train enthusiasts the chances of you hitting any of them with a bullet firing like that are minimal.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 8:03pmFreedom and fear of non-whites/women/homosexuals/non-Christians. But mostly freedom.101Walterton wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 7:37pmCorrect me if I am wrong however is there any functional reason at all to fire a gun like that other than because you are a complete wanker and it makes your twat mate wet his pants?
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So i know this is sort of a generalization but has anyone else been struck by the irony that the demographic of the crowd at this show were probably more likely to be conservative, nra supporters etc.
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I did think that (not NRA but a bunch of people like him) does the guy have a motive?
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Maybe he was just disgusted with humanity. Can you blame him?101Walterton wrote: ↑02 Oct 2017, 10:55pmI did think that (not NRA but a bunch of people like him) does the guy have a motive?
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Some CBS executive got axed for voicing that, in a "fuck them, they were country fan gun nuts" way. I'm always taken aback by people who respond to a tragedy like this with some rationale as to why we shouldn't see the victims deserving sympathy. Whenever a cyclist is killed here in town, for example, there'll always be people who'll argue that the person "deserved it" for, say, not wearing bright clothing or biking on a particular road. Really? Deserved it? It was just that their mistake meant that they lost their life? And, as often as not, these are the same people who go on about the evils of sharia law, when they'd be pretty cool with that quick and harsh punishment.
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One of the singers on stage got tons of headlines yesterday for switching his opinion on the 2nd Amendment. Which, you know, ok—but it's fucking lame that it took seeing tons of people get killed in front of him and for his own life to be threatened for him to understand anything.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑03 Oct 2017, 6:31amSome CBS executive got axed for voicing that, in a "fuck them, they were country fan gun nuts" way. I'm always taken aback by people who respond to a tragedy like this with some rationale as to why we shouldn't see the victims deserving sympathy. Whenever a cyclist is killed here in town, for example, there'll always be people who'll argue that the person "deserved it" for, say, not wearing bright clothing or biking on a particular road. Really? Deserved it? It was just that their mistake meant that they lost their life? And, as often as not, these are the same people who go on about the evils of sharia law, when they'd be pretty cool with that quick and harsh punishment.
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30,000 Americans die every year from gunshot wound.
More than all coalition forces in last 16 years of wars including Afghanistan and Iraq.
More than all coalition forces in last 16 years of wars including Afghanistan and Iraq.
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Violence is especially one of those things that is understood differently in the abstract vs. in reality. There's also the desensitizing effect of movies and tv that both normalize and soften the trauma of guns and death. It's a shame that so many are seduced by abstraction, to deny a basic shared humanity, but that's where we're at.Kory wrote: ↑03 Oct 2017, 1:58pmOne of the singers on stage got tons of headlines yesterday for switching his opinion on the 2nd Amendment. Which, you know, ok—but it's fucking lame that it took seeing tons of people get killed in front of him and for his own life to be threatened for him to understand anything.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑03 Oct 2017, 6:31amSome CBS executive got axed for voicing that, in a "fuck them, they were country fan gun nuts" way. I'm always taken aback by people who respond to a tragedy like this with some rationale as to why we shouldn't see the victims deserving sympathy. Whenever a cyclist is killed here in town, for example, there'll always be people who'll argue that the person "deserved it" for, say, not wearing bright clothing or biking on a particular road. Really? Deserved it? It was just that their mistake meant that they lost their life? And, as often as not, these are the same people who go on about the evils of sharia law, when they'd be pretty cool with that quick and harsh punishment.
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This is the exact reason why White Supremist and Nazi must be met with clubs and bats.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑03 Oct 2017, 2:47pmViolence is especially one of those things that is understood differently in the abstract vs. in reality. There's also the desensitizing effect of movies and tv that both normalize and soften the trauma of guns and death. It's a shame that so many are seduced by abstraction, to deny a basic shared humanity, but that's where we're at.Kory wrote: ↑03 Oct 2017, 1:58pmOne of the singers on stage got tons of headlines yesterday for switching his opinion on the 2nd Amendment. Which, you know, ok—but it's fucking lame that it took seeing tons of people get killed in front of him and for his own life to be threatened for him to understand anything.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑03 Oct 2017, 6:31amSome CBS executive got axed for voicing that, in a "fuck them, they were country fan gun nuts" way. I'm always taken aback by people who respond to a tragedy like this with some rationale as to why we shouldn't see the victims deserving sympathy. Whenever a cyclist is killed here in town, for example, there'll always be people who'll argue that the person "deserved it" for, say, not wearing bright clothing or biking on a particular road. Really? Deserved it? It was just that their mistake meant that they lost their life? And, as often as not, these are the same people who go on about the evils of sharia law, when they'd be pretty cool with that quick and harsh punishment.
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I won't go back into the pacifist argument, but I think an assertion that aggression will be met with defensive violence is legitimate.BostonBeaneater wrote: ↑03 Oct 2017, 3:48pmThis is the exact reason why White Supremist and Nazi must be met with clubs and bats.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑03 Oct 2017, 2:47pmViolence is especially one of those things that is understood differently in the abstract vs. in reality. There's also the desensitizing effect of movies and tv that both normalize and soften the trauma of guns and death. It's a shame that so many are seduced by abstraction, to deny a basic shared humanity, but that's where we're at.Kory wrote: ↑03 Oct 2017, 1:58pmOne of the singers on stage got tons of headlines yesterday for switching his opinion on the 2nd Amendment. Which, you know, ok—but it's fucking lame that it took seeing tons of people get killed in front of him and for his own life to be threatened for him to understand anything.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑03 Oct 2017, 6:31amSome CBS executive got axed for voicing that, in a "fuck them, they were country fan gun nuts" way. I'm always taken aback by people who respond to a tragedy like this with some rationale as to why we shouldn't see the victims deserving sympathy. Whenever a cyclist is killed here in town, for example, there'll always be people who'll argue that the person "deserved it" for, say, not wearing bright clothing or biking on a particular road. Really? Deserved it? It was just that their mistake meant that they lost their life? And, as often as not, these are the same people who go on about the evils of sharia law, when they'd be pretty cool with that quick and harsh punishment.
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