The Future of the Democratic Party

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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Dr. Medulla » 19 Mar 2017, 8:58am

Whenever anyone mentions any Clinton and future politics, my brain machine conjures up this:
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Mimi » 19 Mar 2017, 9:04am

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Dammit, people, you have to separate the head from the body and bury them in different locations or else vampires keep coming back.
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Oh gawd. This is just going to give all her supporters false hope. What they really need is a good swift kick in the pants to wake up to the truth that she's the reason Baby Huey is in office right now.

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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Dr. Medulla » 19 Mar 2017, 9:25am

Mimi wrote:
19 Mar 2017, 9:04am
What they really need is a good swift kick in the pants to wake up to the truth that she's the reason Baby Huey is in office right now.
I don't dismiss Russian and FBI interference as non-issues like some on the left do, but fundamentally if you lose an election to an out-and-out fascist, you fucked up. Fascists don't win because they have better ideas, they win because those who are suppose to represent the basic principles of democracy, liberal democracy or social democracy, have fucked it up badly enough. Anyone defending Clinton or, worse, sees her as some kind of future redeemer is oblivious to this core truth. Obama owns this problem, too. If you're succeeded by a fascist, you failed. Whatever charm he might possess, his time in office led to a goddamned fascist, so let's stop pining for a guy who was either oblivious or too weak to prevent the conditions that led to this.
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Wolter » 19 Mar 2017, 9:27am

Dr. Medulla wrote:
19 Mar 2017, 9:25am
Mimi wrote:
19 Mar 2017, 9:04am
What they really need is a good swift kick in the pants to wake up to the truth that she's the reason Baby Huey is in office right now.
I don't dismiss Russian and FBI interference as non-issues like some on the left do, but fundamentally if you lose an election to an out-and-out fascist, you fucked up. Fascists don't win because they have better ideas, they win because those who are suppose to represent the basic principles of democracy, liberal democracy or social democracy, have fucked it up badly enough. Anyone defending Clinton or, worse, sees her as some kind of future redeemer is oblivious to this core truth. Obama owns this problem, too. If you're succeeded by a fascist, you failed. Whatever charm he might possess, his time in office led to a goddamned fascist, so let's stop pining for a guy who was either oblivious or too weak to prevent the conditions that led to this.
Exactly. No one pines for the glory days of the Weimar Republic.
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Mimi » 19 Mar 2017, 9:29am

Dr. Medulla wrote:
19 Mar 2017, 9:25am
Mimi wrote:
19 Mar 2017, 9:04am
What they really need is a good swift kick in the pants to wake up to the truth that she's the reason Baby Huey is in office right now.
I don't dismiss Russian and FBI interference as non-issues like some on the left do, but fundamentally if you lose an election to an out-and-out fascist, you fucked up. Fascists don't win because they have better ideas, they win because those who are suppose to represent the basic principles of democracy, liberal democracy or social democracy, have fucked it up badly enough. Anyone defending Clinton or, worse, sees her as some kind of future redeemer is oblivious to this core truth. Obama owns this problem, too. If you're succeeded by a fascist, you failed. Whatever charm he might possess, his time in office led to a goddamned fascist, so let's stop pining for a guy who was either oblivious or too weak to prevent the conditions that led to this.

Yep. I wish I could scream this 90% of my Twitter timeline.

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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Flex » 20 Mar 2017, 12:46pm

working to "trade" nominating Gorsuch for Mitch McConnell's promise not to use the nuclear option on the senate filibuster during the next nomination is the most Democratic Party thing ever.
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Dr. Medulla » 20 Mar 2017, 12:50pm

Flex wrote:
20 Mar 2017, 12:46pm
working to "trade" nominating Gorsuch for Mitch McConnell's promise not to use the nuclear option on the senate filibuster during the next nomination is the most Democratic Party thing ever.
If only Neville Chamberlain were still alive. He'd be a natural leader for Democrats.
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Flex » 23 Mar 2017, 3:18pm

I feel dirty for thinking "at least Chuck Schumer has a spine."
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Dr. Medulla » 27 Apr 2017, 4:18pm

This idea of Hillary as the saviour who was rejected is seriously fucking weird, no matter how bad Trump is. In terms of reputation, the best thing that ever happened to her was losing.
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Rat Patrol » 27 Apr 2017, 6:52pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Apr 2017, 4:18pm
This idea of Hillary as the saviour who was rejected is seriously fucking weird, no matter how bad Trump is. In terms of reputation, the best thing that ever happened to her was losing.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/new ... mg00000009
It feels like the wokest liberalsphere skipped right over several stages of fanfic straight to deviant porn. :twitch:
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by matedog » 01 May 2017, 12:47pm

Why the hell is the left not emphasizing law enforcement's support for sanctuary cities? You'd think they'd lean on that hard to get support from moderates and even people on the right (who are generally really pro-law enforcement).
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Dr. Medulla » 01 May 2017, 1:43pm

matedog wrote:
01 May 2017, 12:47pm
Why the hell is the left not emphasizing law enforcement's support for sanctuary cities? You'd think they'd lean on that hard to get support from moderates and even people on the right (who are generally really pro-law enforcement).
Are you talking left or liberal?
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by matedog » 01 May 2017, 4:17pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 May 2017, 1:43pm
matedog wrote:
01 May 2017, 12:47pm
Why the hell is the left not emphasizing law enforcement's support for sanctuary cities? You'd think they'd lean on that hard to get support from moderates and even people on the right (who are generally really pro-law enforcement).
Are you talking left or liberal?
I guess probably liberals.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Dr. Medulla » 01 May 2017, 4:40pm

matedog wrote:
01 May 2017, 4:17pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 May 2017, 1:43pm
matedog wrote:
01 May 2017, 12:47pm
Why the hell is the left not emphasizing law enforcement's support for sanctuary cities? You'd think they'd lean on that hard to get support from moderates and even people on the right (who are generally really pro-law enforcement).
Are you talking left or liberal?
I guess probably liberals.
They're still figuring out how to properly triangulate their position so as to alienate the greatest number of people possible.
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