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Re: Stranger Things [SPOILERS]

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Re: Stranger Things [SPOILERS]

Post by Kory » 18 Aug 2016, 3:46pm

http://www.highsnobiety.com/2016/07/27/ ... -season-2/

Bit of a bummer for me, here. I was hoping they'd do a completely different story.
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Re: Stranger Things [SPOILERS]

Post by eumaas » 18 Aug 2016, 4:40pm

Kory wrote:http://www.highsnobiety.com/2016/07/27/ ... -season-2/

Bit of a bummer for me, here. I was hoping they'd do a completely different story.
Hell no. Look at how godawful S2 of True Detective was. I'm sick to death of dumb anthologies.
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Re: Stranger Things [SPOILERS]

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Kory wrote:http://www.highsnobiety.com/2016/07/27/ ... -season-2/

Bit of a bummer for me, here. I was hoping they'd do a completely different story.
Hell no. Look at how godawful S2 of True Detective was. I'm sick to death of dumb anthologies.
I'm pretty sick of producers thinking I need all the answers spoonfed to me. I like loose ends. My other idea (my favorite) would be that they do five seasons of the show with all the same characters and setting but no mention of the previous seasons. Just a new stranger thing to deal with each time. Then in the fifth season they start catching on that they've been through something like this before. And the whole season is them trying to close the weird time loop.
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Re: Stranger Things [SPOILERS]

Post by Flex » 18 Aug 2016, 5:36pm

Also, you could just have one good season of something and then just fucking leave it alone.

That said, I have no issues with a second season here.
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Re: Stranger Things [SPOILERS]

Post by Flex » 18 Aug 2016, 5:38pm

The problem with True Detective was that it confirmed the creators of the show had no idea what made people enjoy the first season in the first place. I think anthology series expose that possibility more than regular shows, since the showrunners have to recreate the things the viewer loved about the show from an entirely new sandbox. If you don't have a pretty solid idea of what the show is, and what it is to its audience, you're opening yourself up to a lot of potential backlash.
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Re: Stranger Things [SPOILERS]

Post by Kory » 18 Aug 2016, 5:39pm

Flex wrote:Also, you could just have one good season of something and then just fucking leave it alone.

That said, I have no issues with a second season here.
This was my original favorite, but then somebody made fun of me. I think it was either Marky or revbob. I wasn't paying attention.
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Re: Stranger Things [SPOILERS]

Post by Kory » 18 Aug 2016, 5:40pm

Flex wrote:The problem with True Detective was that it confirmed the creators of the show had no idea what made people enjoy the first season in the first place. I think anthology series expose that possibility more than regular shows, since the showrunners have to recreate the things the viewer loved about the show from an entirely new sandbox. If you don't have a pretty solid idea of what the show is, and what it is to its audience, you're opening yourself up to a lot of potential backlash.
Sure, but it's just a bigger version of something like The Twilight Zone or (in a more modern setting) Black Mirror. It can certainly be done, it just has to have the right minds behind it.
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Re: Stranger Things [SPOILERS]

Post by Flex » 18 Aug 2016, 5:46pm

Kory wrote:Sure, but it's just a bigger version of something like The Twilight Zone or (in a more modern setting) Black Mirror. It can certainly be done, it just has to have the right minds behind it.
Well, those are both episodic, right? It gets easier to establish a show's identity over different stories when you get a new chance every week. True Detective fucked up because they did one story for a whole season, went into a sophomore slump in season two, and that was the end of that.

You're also batching a lot of stories together in an anthology, so you can make sure they have a consistent feel and whatnot.

How many successful season-long story anthology shows are out there? Genuine question, the only two I'm at all familiar with are American Horror Story and True Detective. The latter of which wasn't actually successful when it tried to commit to the format.
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Re: Stranger Things [SPOILERS]

Post by Dr. Medulla » 18 Aug 2016, 5:54pm

eumaas wrote:
Kory wrote:http://www.highsnobiety.com/2016/07/27/ ... -season-2/

Bit of a bummer for me, here. I was hoping they'd do a completely different story.
Hell no. Look at how godawful S2 of True Detective was. I'm sick to death of dumb anthologies.
Well, Fargo shows that an entirely new cast and story can work.
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Re: Stranger Things [SPOILERS]

Post by JennyB » 18 Aug 2016, 5:56pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote:
Kory wrote:http://www.highsnobiety.com/2016/07/27/ ... -season-2/

Bit of a bummer for me, here. I was hoping they'd do a completely different story.
Hell no. Look at how godawful S2 of True Detective was. I'm sick to death of dumb anthologies.
Well, Fargo shows that an entirely new cast and story can work.
But there was still a bit of a connection between the two, tenuous as it was. Maybe that made the difference? Because as amazing as the first season was, the second was even better.
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Re: Stranger Things [SPOILERS]

Post by Dr. Medulla » 18 Aug 2016, 6:01pm

JennyB wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote:
Kory wrote:http://www.highsnobiety.com/2016/07/27/ ... -season-2/

Bit of a bummer for me, here. I was hoping they'd do a completely different story.
Hell no. Look at how godawful S2 of True Detective was. I'm sick to death of dumb anthologies.
Well, Fargo shows that an entirely new cast and story can work.
But there was still a bit of a connection between the two, tenuous as it was. Maybe that made the difference? Because as amazing as the first season was, the second was even better.
Certainly, just as the first season had a connection to the movie, but crucially, I think, neither requires that kind of pre-knowledge to watch either season. Being versed is like a bonus.
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Re: Stranger Things [SPOILERS]

Post by Kory » 18 Aug 2016, 6:34pm

Flex wrote:How many successful season-long story anthology shows are out there? Genuine question, the only two I'm at all familiar with are American Horror Story and True Detective. The latter of which wasn't actually successful when it tried to commit to the format.
I've never seen it, but I'm told that Fargo fits that bill. I'll have to take a look.
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Re: Stranger Things [SPOILERS]

Post by eumaas » 18 Aug 2016, 6:37pm

Thanks, Flex. I'm fine with episodic anthologies or miniseries, but with the exception of Fargo, season-long anthologies don't work for me. Fargo at least has those loose coonections and is heavily dependent on the setting.
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