Not to make light of rape, but I can't believe the source. It's an Australian rape case and the attorney's name is Paul Hogan? Did he say "You call that a cock? Now that's a cock."Wolter wrote:Jesus fucking Christ.Flex wrote:This line of reasoning is... not very sound: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... rules.html
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So, I thought this was a fairly powerful bit of writing: http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2 ... ecipients/
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What the fuck is wrong with people? This (and because I don't want him to turn into a douchebag) is why I am going to try my damndest to raise VH Jr to be a feminist.Flex wrote:So, I thought this was a fairly powerful bit of writing: http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2 ... ecipients/
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A woman fired from Citi Bank for being too attractive: http://dealbreaker.com/2010/06/is-this- ... ur-office/
A woman fired from Citi Bank for being too attractive: http://dealbreaker.com/2010/06/is-this- ... ur-office/
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I went to a book sale the other day to get books for the kids (retail price is ridiculous). Bought a huge pile of books for my son, adventures, mysteries, sports stories, monster stories, space exploration, fantasy etc etc. I bought one book for my daughter which was actually a boys book about being a greenie.
Every girls book was about boyfriends, girls falling out, family break ups and shopping malls. Disgraceful, the women that write these books should be ashamed.
Every girls book was about boyfriends, girls falling out, family break ups and shopping malls. Disgraceful, the women that write these books should be ashamed.
Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Sexism is Pretty Much Over.
Yeah, whatever happened to Nancy Drew?101Walterton wrote:I went to a book sale the other day to get books for the kids (retail price is ridiculous). Bought a huge pile of books for my son, adventures, mysteries, sports stories, monster stories, space exploration, fantasy etc etc. I bought one book for my daughter which was actually a boys book about being a greenie.
Every girls book was about boyfriends, girls falling out, family break ups and shopping malls. Disgraceful, the women that write these books should be ashamed.
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Whatever happened to equality of the sexes and girl power !!!
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Whatever happened to... all of the heroes?
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All the Shakespearoes?Flex wrote:Whatever happened to... all of the heroes?
My point exactly.
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When you dressed up sharp and you felt alright.
It ain't been the same since cosmic light
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When you dressed up sharp and you felt alright.
It ain't been the same since cosmic light
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Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Sexism is Pretty Much Over.
I agree with you, but ont he other hand, why are mysteries, sports books, monster stories, space exploration, etc. considered boys' books in the first place? Why aren't there any boys' books about being in touch with their feelings and shit? OK, I know I sound obnoxious, but my point is, can't any of those books be considered gender-neutral?101Walterton wrote:I went to a book sale the other day to get books for the kids (retail price is ridiculous). Bought a huge pile of books for my son, adventures, mysteries, sports stories, monster stories, space exploration, fantasy etc etc. I bought one book for my daughter which was actually a boys book about being a greenie.
Every girls book was about boyfriends, girls falling out, family break ups and shopping malls. Disgraceful, the women that write these books should be ashamed.
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I was chatting with eumaas about this a little last night and, I can't speak for him, but I agree with the thrust of what you're saying.JennyB wrote:I agree with you, but ont he other hand, why are mysteries, sports books, monster stories, space exploration, etc. considered boys' books in the first place? Why aren't there any boys' books about being in touch with their feelings and shit? OK, I know I sound obnoxious, but my point is, can't any of those books be considered gender-neutral?101Walterton wrote:I went to a book sale the other day to get books for the kids (retail price is ridiculous). Bought a huge pile of books for my son, adventures, mysteries, sports stories, monster stories, space exploration, fantasy etc etc. I bought one book for my daughter which was actually a boys book about being a greenie.
Every girls book was about boyfriends, girls falling out, family break ups and shopping malls. Disgraceful, the women that write these books should be ashamed.
Girls are forced to read very, very gendered shit. To me, the issue isn't that they're reading about relationships, or issues with families, or whatever else, it's that it's presented in about the most insulting and facile manner possible.
And, as you say, the other side of the coin is boy's books which are just as stupid and used to promote heteronormative, hyper-masculine standards.
As you say, an increasing emphasis on gender-neutral titles, or books aimed at certain target audiences which don't promote the most banal and harmful stereotypes our society has to offer, would do a world of good.
Frankly, if I were a parent with a daughter I'd be trying to turn her onto writers like Ursula K. LeGuinn as early as possible.
Oh, and while not perfect, this isn't a bad resource: http://ameliabloomer.wordpress.com/
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Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Sexism is Pretty Much Over.
I like that, Flex. I want VH Jr. to be a feminist, so I appreciate hearing about good books for kids.Flex wrote:I was chatting with eumaas about this a little last night and, I can't speak for him, but I agree with the thrust of what you're saying.JennyB wrote:I agree with you, but ont he other hand, why are mysteries, sports books, monster stories, space exploration, etc. considered boys' books in the first place? Why aren't there any boys' books about being in touch with their feelings and shit? OK, I know I sound obnoxious, but my point is, can't any of those books be considered gender-neutral?101Walterton wrote:I went to a book sale the other day to get books for the kids (retail price is ridiculous). Bought a huge pile of books for my son, adventures, mysteries, sports stories, monster stories, space exploration, fantasy etc etc. I bought one book for my daughter which was actually a boys book about being a greenie.
Every girls book was about boyfriends, girls falling out, family break ups and shopping malls. Disgraceful, the women that write these books should be ashamed.
Girls are forced to read very, very gendered shit. To me, the issue isn't that they're reading about relationships, or issues with families, or whatever else, it's that it's presented in about the most insulting and facile manner possible.
And, as you say, the other side of the coin is boy's books which are just as stupid and used to promote heteronormative, hyper-masculine standards.
As you say, an increasing emphasis on gender-neutral titles, or books aimed at certain target audiences which don't promote the most banal and harmful stereotypes our society has to offer, would do a world of good.
Frankly, if I were a parent with a daughter I'd be trying to turn her onto writers like Ursula K. LeGuinn as early as possible.
Oh, and while not perfect, this isn't a bad resource: http://ameliabloomer.wordpress.com/
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But won't doing that turn all our children ghey?Flex wrote:I was chatting with eumaas about this a little last night and, I can't speak for him, but I agree with the thrust of what you're saying.JennyB wrote:I agree with you, but ont he other hand, why are mysteries, sports books, monster stories, space exploration, etc. considered boys' books in the first place? Why aren't there any boys' books about being in touch with their feelings and shit? OK, I know I sound obnoxious, but my point is, can't any of those books be considered gender-neutral?101Walterton wrote:I went to a book sale the other day to get books for the kids (retail price is ridiculous). Bought a huge pile of books for my son, adventures, mysteries, sports stories, monster stories, space exploration, fantasy etc etc. I bought one book for my daughter which was actually a boys book about being a greenie.
Every girls book was about boyfriends, girls falling out, family break ups and shopping malls. Disgraceful, the women that write these books should be ashamed.
Girls are forced to read very, very gendered shit. To me, the issue isn't that they're reading about relationships, or issues with families, or whatever else, it's that it's presented in about the most insulting and facile manner possible.
And, as you say, the other side of the coin is boy's books which are just as stupid and used to promote heteronormative, hyper-masculine standards.
As you say, an increasing emphasis on gender-neutral titles, or books aimed at certain target audiences which don't promote the most banal and harmful stereotypes our society has to offer, would do a world of good.
Frankly, if I were a parent with a daughter I'd be trying to turn her onto writers like Ursula K. LeGuinn as early as possible.
Oh, and while not perfect, this isn't a bad resource: http://ameliabloomer.wordpress.com/
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.