Stone Thames

Mick Jones, Carbon/Silicon, BAD and cetera.
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Re: Stone Thames

Post by BR16ADE_R055E » 05 Sep 2017, 7:10pm

Kory wrote:
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Smokescreen!

Oakscreen?
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Re: Stone Thames

Post by Heston » 05 Sep 2017, 7:11pm

Wonder if it was a Don or Mick lyric? Either way it was streets ahead of where Joe was at this point. I'm one of CtC's biggest defenders but BAD were on another level.
So what does Marconi playing the mamba mean? "Marconi" is referring to the radio itself. It plays a deadly snake. The snake - the mamba - is slithering from the speakers. Ready to kill greedy corporations. Ready to free the world of all that is evil, and to leave behind only the youthful idealism encompassed by the tenets of rock and roll.

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Re: Stone Thames

Post by Marky Dread » 05 Sep 2017, 7:55pm

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Wonder if it was a Don or Mick lyric? Either way it was streets ahead of where Joe was at this point. I'm one of CtC's biggest defenders but BAD were on another level.
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Re: Stone Thames

Post by MarkyJacobs » 06 Sep 2017, 7:06am

Heston wrote:
05 Sep 2017, 7:11pm
Wonder if it was a Don or Mick lyric? Either way it was streets ahead of where Joe was at this point. I'm one of CtC's biggest defenders but BAD were on another level.
I think you have to assume Don had significant input, as BAD II's lyrics never got anywhere close!

Apparently Joe's first words to Mick on reconciliation were to the effect that he didn't like the first BAD album much. I'm sorry Joe, but what's not to like?

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Re: Stone Thames

Post by MarkyJacobs » 06 Sep 2017, 7:10am

Going back to the Stussy warehouse thing...

The only person I can think of, capable of such celebrity hobnobbing, is Piers Morgan.

Scary!

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Re: Stone Thames

Post by Heston » 06 Sep 2017, 7:33am

MarkyJacobs wrote:
06 Sep 2017, 7:06am
Heston wrote:
05 Sep 2017, 7:11pm
Wonder if it was a Don or Mick lyric? Either way it was streets ahead of where Joe was at this point. I'm one of CtC's biggest defenders but BAD were on another level.
I think you have to assume Don had significant input, as BAD II's lyrics never got anywhere close!

Apparently Joe's first words to Mick on reconciliation were to the effect that he didn't like the first BAD album much. I'm sorry Joe, but what's not to like?
Joe had other motives, like reforming the real Clash.
So what does Marconi playing the mamba mean? "Marconi" is referring to the radio itself. It plays a deadly snake. The snake - the mamba - is slithering from the speakers. Ready to kill greedy corporations. Ready to free the world of all that is evil, and to leave behind only the youthful idealism encompassed by the tenets of rock and roll.

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Re: Stone Thames

Post by MarkyJacobs » 06 Sep 2017, 7:46am

Even so...

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Re: Stone Thames

Post by TeddyB Not Logged In » 06 Sep 2017, 9:33pm

MarkyJacobs wrote:
05 Sep 2017, 6:01pm
Kory wrote:
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Maybe Teddy IS Oakenfold...
It would be interesting if he was. But I'm sure Teddy said he visited (the Stussy warehouse) with Mick and Oakenfold...
Yes, we did. It was in ‘91 I think, before the U2 tour. Paul Oakenfold is a very good friend of Gary Stonadge. And I’m not him.

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Re: Stone Thames

Post by drowninghere » 06 Sep 2017, 11:11pm

MarkyJacobs wrote:
06 Sep 2017, 7:06am
Heston wrote:
05 Sep 2017, 7:11pm
Wonder if it was a Don or Mick lyric? Either way it was streets ahead of where Joe was at this point. I'm one of CtC's biggest defenders but BAD were on another level.
I think you have to assume Don had significant input, as BAD II's lyrics never got anywhere close!

Apparently Joe's first words to Mick on reconciliation were to the effect that he didn't like the first BAD album much. I'm sorry Joe, but what's not to like?
From what I remember reading, I think it would be a mistake to give Don too much credit for the quality of the lyrics on that album.

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Re: Stone Thames

Post by Heston » 07 Sep 2017, 1:59am

drowninghere wrote:
06 Sep 2017, 11:11pm
MarkyJacobs wrote:
06 Sep 2017, 7:06am
Heston wrote:
05 Sep 2017, 7:11pm
Wonder if it was a Don or Mick lyric? Either way it was streets ahead of where Joe was at this point. I'm one of CtC's biggest defenders but BAD were on another level.
I think you have to assume Don had significant input, as BAD II's lyrics never got anywhere close!

Apparently Joe's first words to Mick on reconciliation were to the effect that he didn't like the first BAD album much. I'm sorry Joe, but what's not to like?
From what I remember reading, I think it would be a mistake to give Don too much credit for the quality of the lyrics on that album.
I would have thought the same until I learned he wrote the E=MC2 lyrics.
So what does Marconi playing the mamba mean? "Marconi" is referring to the radio itself. It plays a deadly snake. The snake - the mamba - is slithering from the speakers. Ready to kill greedy corporations. Ready to free the world of all that is evil, and to leave behind only the youthful idealism encompassed by the tenets of rock and roll.

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Re: Stone Thames

Post by TeddyB Not Logged In » 07 Sep 2017, 2:54am

Most Jones/Letts songs were collaborative. The ideas flow back and forth in the air, and then they become songs. It would also be a mistake, however, not to give Don enough credit.

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Re: Stone Thames

Post by MarkyJacobs » 07 Sep 2017, 9:27am

TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
07 Sep 2017, 2:54am
Most Jones/Letts songs were collaborative. The ideas flow back and forth in the air
Air thick with marijuana smoke, I shouldn't wonder.

Let's not forget The Bottom Line though. It's arguably the strongest song anywhere for which Mick receives sole credit.

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Re: Stone Thames

Post by TeddyB Not Logged In » 07 Sep 2017, 7:02pm

MarkyJacobs wrote:
07 Sep 2017, 9:27am
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
07 Sep 2017, 2:54am
Most Jones/Letts songs were collaborative. The ideas flow back and forth in the air
Air thick with marijuana smoke, I shouldn't wonder.

Let's not forget The Bottom Line though. It's arguably the strongest song anywhere for which Mick receives sole credit.
Yes, but Mick has actually recently given a co-credit on The Bottom Line to Robin Banks. Like I said, the ideas flow back and forth and in the air with Mick (high or not), and sometimes they end up in a song. Mick can write a lyric though.

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Re: Stone Thames

Post by Heston » 07 Sep 2017, 8:01pm

TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
07 Sep 2017, 7:02pm
Mick can write a lyric though.
He more or less single-handedly wrote my favourite song of all time (Complete Control) if the biogs are correct.
So what does Marconi playing the mamba mean? "Marconi" is referring to the radio itself. It plays a deadly snake. The snake - the mamba - is slithering from the speakers. Ready to kill greedy corporations. Ready to free the world of all that is evil, and to leave behind only the youthful idealism encompassed by the tenets of rock and roll.

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Re: Stone Thames

Post by Marky Dread » 07 Sep 2017, 8:52pm

Heston wrote:
07 Sep 2017, 8:01pm
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
07 Sep 2017, 7:02pm
Mick can write a lyric though.
He more or less single-handedly wrote my favourite song of all time (Complete Control) if the biogs are correct.
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