Stone Thames

Mick Jones, Carbon/Silicon, BAD and cetera.
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Kory wrote:
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Smokescreen!

Oakscreen?
Get yer coat.

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Wonder if it was a Don or Mick lyric? Either way it was streets ahead of where Joe was at this point. I'm one of CtC's biggest defenders but BAD were on another level.
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Wonder if it was a Don or Mick lyric? Either way it was streets ahead of where Joe was at this point. I'm one of CtC's biggest defenders but BAD were on another level.
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Heston wrote:
05 Sep 2017, 7:11pm
Wonder if it was a Don or Mick lyric? Either way it was streets ahead of where Joe was at this point. I'm one of CtC's biggest defenders but BAD were on another level.
I think you have to assume Don had significant input, as BAD II's lyrics never got anywhere close!

Apparently Joe's first words to Mick on reconciliation were to the effect that he didn't like the first BAD album much. I'm sorry Joe, but what's not to like?

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Going back to the Stussy warehouse thing...

The only person I can think of, capable of such celebrity hobnobbing, is Piers Morgan.

Scary!

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MarkyJacobs wrote:
06 Sep 2017, 7:06am
Heston wrote:
05 Sep 2017, 7:11pm
Wonder if it was a Don or Mick lyric? Either way it was streets ahead of where Joe was at this point. I'm one of CtC's biggest defenders but BAD were on another level.
I think you have to assume Don had significant input, as BAD II's lyrics never got anywhere close!

Apparently Joe's first words to Mick on reconciliation were to the effect that he didn't like the first BAD album much. I'm sorry Joe, but what's not to like?
Joe had other motives, like reforming the real Clash.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Even so...

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MarkyJacobs wrote:
05 Sep 2017, 6:01pm
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Maybe Teddy IS Oakenfold...
It would be interesting if he was. But I'm sure Teddy said he visited (the Stussy warehouse) with Mick and Oakenfold...
Yes, we did. It was in ‘91 I think, before the U2 tour. Paul Oakenfold is a very good friend of Gary Stonadge. And I’m not him.

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MarkyJacobs wrote:
06 Sep 2017, 7:06am
Heston wrote:
05 Sep 2017, 7:11pm
Wonder if it was a Don or Mick lyric? Either way it was streets ahead of where Joe was at this point. I'm one of CtC's biggest defenders but BAD were on another level.
I think you have to assume Don had significant input, as BAD II's lyrics never got anywhere close!

Apparently Joe's first words to Mick on reconciliation were to the effect that he didn't like the first BAD album much. I'm sorry Joe, but what's not to like?
From what I remember reading, I think it would be a mistake to give Don too much credit for the quality of the lyrics on that album.

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drowninghere wrote:
06 Sep 2017, 11:11pm
MarkyJacobs wrote:
06 Sep 2017, 7:06am
Heston wrote:
05 Sep 2017, 7:11pm
Wonder if it was a Don or Mick lyric? Either way it was streets ahead of where Joe was at this point. I'm one of CtC's biggest defenders but BAD were on another level.
I think you have to assume Don had significant input, as BAD II's lyrics never got anywhere close!

Apparently Joe's first words to Mick on reconciliation were to the effect that he didn't like the first BAD album much. I'm sorry Joe, but what's not to like?
From what I remember reading, I think it would be a mistake to give Don too much credit for the quality of the lyrics on that album.
I would have thought the same until I learned he wrote the E=MC2 lyrics.
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Most Jones/Letts songs were collaborative. The ideas flow back and forth in the air, and then they become songs. It would also be a mistake, however, not to give Don enough credit.

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Most Jones/Letts songs were collaborative. The ideas flow back and forth in the air
Air thick with marijuana smoke, I shouldn't wonder.

Let's not forget The Bottom Line though. It's arguably the strongest song anywhere for which Mick receives sole credit.

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MarkyJacobs wrote:
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TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
07 Sep 2017, 2:54am
Most Jones/Letts songs were collaborative. The ideas flow back and forth in the air
Air thick with marijuana smoke, I shouldn't wonder.

Let's not forget The Bottom Line though. It's arguably the strongest song anywhere for which Mick receives sole credit.
Yes, but Mick has actually recently given a co-credit on The Bottom Line to Robin Banks. Like I said, the ideas flow back and forth and in the air with Mick (high or not), and sometimes they end up in a song. Mick can write a lyric though.

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TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
07 Sep 2017, 7:02pm
Mick can write a lyric though.
He more or less single-handedly wrote my favourite song of all time (Complete Control) if the biogs are correct.
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Heston wrote:
07 Sep 2017, 8:01pm
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
07 Sep 2017, 7:02pm
Mick can write a lyric though.
He more or less single-handedly wrote my favourite song of all time (Complete Control) if the biogs are correct.
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