US North

Mick Jones, Carbon/Silicon, BAD and cetera.
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Re: US North

Post by ohsoso » 07 Oct 2018, 9:08am

Heston wrote:
07 Oct 2018, 6:33am
MarkyJacobs wrote:
07 Oct 2018, 4:42am
Remind me. I know BAD played this live, but was it intended to be an Upping St track or was it made for a film soundtrack? Sid and Nancy?
It was intended for the movie "Candy Mountain." Not sure if it was ever in contention for Upping St.
i really enjoyed candy mountain. pretty similar in tempo and storyline to jim jarmusch's movies.
strummer plays a nice short part.

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Re: US North

Post by Silent Majority » 07 Oct 2018, 10:55am

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TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
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This is the original 1987 mix, the way Mick and Joe wanted it at the time. It's only been remastered for 001. Try listening to Marky's edit, I think Joe can be heard a bit more.
Yeah, you can definitely hear Joe a bit more on the Marky edit. It's weird I thought Joe wasn't on it at first but now I can't unhear him. 101 got it right when he said you can hear Joe more at the end of each line. He hangs on a split second longer than Mick.
He's singing really successfully with Mick's register, moreso than he did with the Clash.
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Re: US North

Post by BR16ADE_R055E » 07 Oct 2018, 10:57pm

TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
07 Oct 2018, 1:02am
Give it a try. It's possible Marky's edit may be derived from a non-brickwalled source.
I tried more than once. Still no Joe joy.

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Re: US North

Post by matedog » 08 Oct 2018, 10:39am

BR16ADE_R055E wrote:
07 Oct 2018, 10:57pm
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
07 Oct 2018, 1:02am
Give it a try. It's possible Marky's edit may be derived from a non-brickwalled source.
I tried more than once. Still no Joe joy.
Try on the 10:30 minute version at exactly 2:39, you can very distinctly hear Joe on the second "tell me whyyyyy." Joe holds the note a good bit longer.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Re: US North

Post by deny » 08 Oct 2018, 12:15pm

matedog wrote:
08 Oct 2018, 10:39am
BR16ADE_R055E wrote:
07 Oct 2018, 10:57pm
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
07 Oct 2018, 1:02am
Give it a try. It's possible Marky's edit may be derived from a non-brickwalled source.
I tried more than once. Still no Joe joy.
Try on the 10:30 minute version at exactly 2:39, you can very distinctly hear Joe on the second "tell me whyyyyy." Joe holds the note a good bit longer.
and on the next line 'Does he have a car' :mrgreen:
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Re: US North

Post by Marky Dread » 08 Oct 2018, 3:53pm

"all motocycle cop wants to die"

Influenced by this?

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Re: US North

Post by oliver » 08 Oct 2018, 7:41pm

Marky Dread wrote:
08 Oct 2018, 3:53pm
"all motocycle cop wants to die"

Influenced by this?

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Wasn't that guitar that Mick favoured in BAD also called an electraglide?
Putting a little stick about. Putting the frighteners on flash little twerps

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Re: US North

Post by Marky Dread » 08 Oct 2018, 8:52pm

oliver wrote:
08 Oct 2018, 7:41pm
Marky Dread wrote:
08 Oct 2018, 3:53pm
"all motocycle cop wants to die"

Influenced by this?

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Wasn't that guitar that Mick favoured in BAD also called an electraglide?
Yes a Bond Electraglide (The Daleks Handbag).
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Re: US North

Post by BR16ADE_R055E » 09 Oct 2018, 1:06am

matedog wrote:
08 Oct 2018, 10:39am
BR16ADE_R055E wrote:
07 Oct 2018, 10:57pm
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
07 Oct 2018, 1:02am
Give it a try. It's possible Marky's edit may be derived from a non-brickwalled source.
I tried more than once. Still no Joe joy.
Try on the 10:30 minute version at exactly 2:39, you can very distinctly hear Joe on the second "tell me whyyyyy." Joe holds the note a good bit longer.
OK, I just barely hear Joe. Finally. Thanks.

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Re: US North

Post by Matheries » 09 Oct 2018, 5:17am

The Daleks handbag was the Roland guitar synth ! the same as TJ in Sputnik.

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Re: US North

Post by MarkyJacobs » 09 Oct 2018, 7:58am

Matheries wrote:
09 Oct 2018, 5:17am
The Daleks handbag was the Roland guitar synth ! the same as TJ in Sputnik.
Yes, as exhibited at Mick's Rock 'n' Roll Library.

I think US North must have been intended for release as a Big Audio Dynamite song. The band wouldn't have 'road-tested' it otherwise, would they?

The lyrics are obviously Strummer though. I think you could have shown me the words written down, and without being given any clues, I would have been able to identify them as Joe's work.

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Re: US North

Post by MarkyJacobs » 09 Oct 2018, 8:38am

:huh:

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Re: US North

Post by Marky Dread » 09 Oct 2018, 9:18am

Matheries wrote:
09 Oct 2018, 5:17am
The Daleks handbag was the Roland guitar synth ! the same as TJ in Sputnik.
Yes yes of course it is. Thanks mate.
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Re: US North

Post by Matheries » 09 Oct 2018, 11:16am

I have a thing for that old 80's kit - when Mick took the library to Norwich art school, he also had the bond guitar and the Linn drum machine.

One thing I always thought about after visiting, that there were some tapes with various notes on them, just wish I had taken the old Walkman - might of been a few gems there!

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Re: US North

Post by NoMoreHugh » 20 Oct 2018, 1:46am

Fantastic to see this song finally released as a studio version :) Loving this song so much and very happy with a 10 minute version. Thank you to all that was involved in the edited versions they were great too.

I definitely cant hear Joe Strummer singing on this at all, and what sound engineer would have mixed this so that he cant be heard at all ?. Personally i doubt very much Joe is recorded on this.I hear Mick's voice sounding twice on it - is it called double tracked ?

Personally i think this has Joe's name attached to it just to get a release from the record company. This is probably the only way Bad fans were ever going to get to hear this song by having it presented as a joint song between the two of them.

Whats next ? Bad doing the cover studio version of Poontang now. If there is a version i would love to hear that, lets get another campaign going :mrgreen:

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