So...what did Paul actually play on?

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TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:I don't know but his live playing with the Gorillaz was very cool. It's funny/interesting that a musician can improve while not actually playing very much in the interim.
I know it's shat upon here, but I really dig his playing on TGTB&TQ.
I think it's probably shat upon because it's horribly boring.
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I'd like to revive this discussion after listening to Rat Patrol so much lately. Is there any information on how many tracks Paul played on? I know we see him in that news report from Westway to the World playing on KYR, and I think that song was also the subject of the infamous mixing desk fight over what instruments should be louder. It's clear that he didn't play on OBF and RTC, but what else? We can probably assume that Mick took the bass chair for SISOSIG. Any other theories or info?
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Kory wrote:I'd like to revive this discussion after listening to Rat Patrol so much lately. Is there any information on how many tracks Paul played on? I know we see him in that news report from Westway to the World playing on KYR, and I think that song was also the subject of the infamous mixing desk fight over what instruments should be louder. It's clear that he didn't play on OBF and RTC, but what else? We can probably assume that Mick took the bass chair for SISOSIG. Any other theories or info?
Who did OBF then? RTC is supposedly Topper, but I'm not sure I believe that.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Kory wrote:I'd like to revive this discussion after listening to Rat Patrol so much lately. Is there any information on how many tracks Paul played on? I know we see him in that news report from Westway to the World playing on KYR, and I think that song was also the subject of the infamous mixing desk fight over what instruments should be louder. It's clear that he didn't play on OBF and RTC, but what else? We can probably assume that Mick took the bass chair for SISOSIG. Any other theories or info?
Who did OBF then? RTC is supposedly Topper, but I'm not sure I believe that.
The story goes that Topper had the track almost complete by the time everyone showed up to the studio. Do you suspect Mick instead, then? I can't speak to OBF, but that is some serious basswork. Did they still have Watt-Roy in their pocket?
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Jerry Green?

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TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:Jerry Green?
Very interesting. It's obviously not unheard of for engineers to help out once in a while. Is he a known musician? I don't know much about him. Are you suggesting him for both tracks?
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I'm pretty sure he sang on Mull of Kintyre.
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Marky Dread wrote:I'm pretty sure he sang on Mull of Kintyre.
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Kory wrote:
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:Jerry Green?
Very interesting. It's obviously not unheard of for engineers to help out once in a while. Is he a known musician? I don't know much about him. Are you suggesting him for both tracks?
It's my understanding he played some bass in the studio, possibly on RTC. I know that runs counter to Joe's description of Topper throwing down the bass after the drums and piano. This is not direct from Mick.

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TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
Kory wrote:
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:Jerry Green?
Very interesting. It's obviously not unheard of for engineers to help out once in a while. Is he a known musician? I don't know much about him. Are you suggesting him for both tracks?
It's my understanding he played some bass in the studio, possibly on RTC. I know that runs counter to Joe's description of Topper throwing down the bass after the drums and piano. This is not direct from Mick.
That's some cool info, cheers TB.
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matedog wrote:
Kory wrote:I'd like to revive this discussion after listening to Rat Patrol so much lately. Is there any information on how many tracks Paul played on? I know we see him in that news report from Westway to the World playing on KYR, and I think that song was also the subject of the infamous mixing desk fight over what instruments should be louder. It's clear that he didn't play on OBF and RTC, but what else? We can probably assume that Mick took the bass chair for SISOSIG. Any other theories or info?
Who did OBF then? RTC is supposedly Topper, but I'm not sure I believe that.
According to Topper. Watt Roy played on Casbah...

http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Norman_Watt-Roy


OBF certainly sounds like Norman, that slappy bit in the middle especially.
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Heston wrote:
matedog wrote:
Kory wrote:I'd like to revive this discussion after listening to Rat Patrol so much lately. Is there any information on how many tracks Paul played on? I know we see him in that news report from Westway to the World playing on KYR, and I think that song was also the subject of the infamous mixing desk fight over what instruments should be louder. It's clear that he didn't play on OBF and RTC, but what else? We can probably assume that Mick took the bass chair for SISOSIG. Any other theories or info?
Who did OBF then? RTC is supposedly Topper, but I'm not sure I believe that.
According to Topper. Watt Roy played on Casbah...

http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Norman_Watt-Roy


OBF certainly sounds like Norman, that slappy bit in the middle especially.
At least Paul was replaced by probably the greatest bass player ever.
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SISOSIG sounds like Paul.

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Heston wrote:
matedog wrote:
Kory wrote:I'd like to revive this discussion after listening to Rat Patrol so much lately. Is there any information on how many tracks Paul played on? I know we see him in that news report from Westway to the World playing on KYR, and I think that song was also the subject of the infamous mixing desk fight over what instruments should be louder. It's clear that he didn't play on OBF and RTC, but what else? We can probably assume that Mick took the bass chair for SISOSIG. Any other theories or info?
Who did OBF then? RTC is supposedly Topper, but I'm not sure I believe that.
According to Topper. Watt Roy played on Casbah...

http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Norman_Watt-Roy


OBF certainly sounds like Norman, that slappy bit in the middle especially.
I just wish they included a link to that interview. Google turns up empty.

I'm still skeptical. They were pretty open about their playing on S!, so why cover it up on CR? Plus Norman Watt Roy usually meant Mickey Gallagher as well. That's even how it was on CTC until Bernie axed Mickey.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
Heston wrote:
matedog wrote:
Kory wrote:I'd like to revive this discussion after listening to Rat Patrol so much lately. Is there any information on how many tracks Paul played on? I know we see him in that news report from Westway to the World playing on KYR, and I think that song was also the subject of the infamous mixing desk fight over what instruments should be louder. It's clear that he didn't play on OBF and RTC, but what else? We can probably assume that Mick took the bass chair for SISOSIG. Any other theories or info?
Who did OBF then? RTC is supposedly Topper, but I'm not sure I believe that.
According to Topper. Watt Roy played on Casbah...

http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Norman_Watt-Roy


OBF certainly sounds like Norman, that slappy bit in the middle especially.
I just wish they included a link to that interview. Google turns up empty.

I'm still skeptical. They were pretty open about their playing on S!, so why cover it up on CR? Plus Norman Watt Roy usually meant Mickey Gallagher as well. That's even how it was on CTC until Bernie axed Mickey.
Paul was out of the country when those Sandinista tracks were recorded. As far as i'm aware, he was present for CR sessions, so to say he wasn't playing on them would beg the question "Why not?"

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