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Re: SOUNDBOARD UPGRADE BRIXTON 30 JULY 1982

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 6:23pm
by Silent Majority
IkarisOne wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:Joe after The Clash II fiasco that was CTC went onto soundtracks making some good music in Trash City and Love Kills/Dum Dum Club but these are not a million miles away from the 101ers.
I've decided that Love Kills is a weird, flawed masterpiece.
Seeing that Bowie recently came out of retirement, I wonder if Mick in particular was thinking about the Bowie model when it came to breaking America. Bowie didn't do much with his heavy guitar rock here and didn't hit the Top 10 until he started playing disco and such. I wonder if that was a factor.
Nah, the film's garbage. The less to do with it, the better. Read it as Joe's love letter to Topper.

Re: SOUNDBOARD UPGRADE BRIXTON 30 JULY 1982

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 6:37pm
by 101Walterton
IkarisOne wrote:
101Walterton wrote:LC was the best 101ers album.

[youtube][/youtube]

Tell me the truth, though- wouldn't it be a million times better if all the guitars sounded like this on the whole record? The Clash's real sound - flamethrowing guitars drenched in reverb and layers of distortion- kicks the living shit out of any of the studio-created substitutes.
Yes absolutely.

Re: SOUNDBOARD UPGRADE BRIXTON 30 JULY 1982

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 6:38pm
by IkarisOne
101Walterton wrote:
IkarisOne wrote:
101Walterton wrote:LC was the best 101ers album.

[youtube][/youtube]

Tell me the truth, though- wouldn't it be a million times better if all the guitars sounded like this on the whole record? The Clash's real sound - flamethrowing guitars drenched in reverb and layers of distortion- kicks the living shit out of any of the studio-created substitutes.
Yes absolutely.
Marry me.

Re: SOUNDBOARD UPGRADE BRIXTON 30 JULY 1982

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 6:39pm
by 101Walterton
IkarisOne wrote:
101Walterton wrote:
IkarisOne wrote:
101Walterton wrote:LC was the best 101ers album.

[youtube][/youtube]

Tell me the truth, though- wouldn't it be a million times better if all the guitars sounded like this on the whole record? The Clash's real sound - flamethrowing guitars drenched in reverb and layers of distortion- kicks the living shit out of any of the studio-created substitutes.
Yes absolutely.
Marry me.
Not until you admit that LC is the album Joe wanted the 101ers to make.

Re: SOUNDBOARD UPGRADE BRIXTON 30 JULY 1982

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 6:43pm
by Marky Dread
101Walterton wrote:
IkarisOne wrote:
101Walterton wrote:
IkarisOne wrote:
101Walterton wrote:LC was the best 101ers album.

[youtube][/youtube]

Tell me the truth, though- wouldn't it be a million times better if all the guitars sounded like this on the whole record? The Clash's real sound - flamethrowing guitars drenched in reverb and layers of distortion- kicks the living shit out of any of the studio-created substitutes.
Yes absolutely.
Marry me.
Not until you admit that LC is the album Joe wanted the 101ers to make.
The 101ers had some musical chops. But fuck me what a lack of style. Can you imagine the LC video with Don Lets shooting 5 tramps outside Lisson Grove labour exchange.

Re: SOUNDBOARD UPGRADE BRIXTON 30 JULY 1982

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 6:58pm
by IkarisOne
101Walterton wrote:
IkarisOne wrote:
101Walterton wrote:
IkarisOne wrote:
101Walterton wrote:LC was the best 101ers album.

[youtube][/youtube]

Tell me the truth, though- wouldn't it be a million times better if all the guitars sounded like this on the whole record? The Clash's real sound - flamethrowing guitars drenched in reverb and layers of distortion- kicks the living shit out of any of the studio-created substitutes.
Yes absolutely.
Marry me.
Not until you admit that LC is the album Joe wanted the 101ers to make.
It is a classic 1974 pub rock album, very much like Ducks Deluxe or the early Graham Parker* material. Very much a retreat to the comforting fantasies of the past in the face of an uncertain future. But the 101ers were a bit more frantic and cathartic, whereas LC is more sedate and mannered.

*I think Lover's Rock sounds exactly like something off of Squeezing Out Sparks.

Re: SOUNDBOARD UPGRADE BRIXTON 30 JULY 1982

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 7:04pm
by Marky Dread
IkarisOne wrote:
101Walterton wrote:
IkarisOne wrote:
101Walterton wrote:
IkarisOne wrote:
[youtube][/youtube]

Tell me the truth, though- wouldn't it be a million times better if all the guitars sounded like this on the whole record? The Clash's real sound - flamethrowing guitars drenched in reverb and layers of distortion- kicks the living shit out of any of the studio-created substitutes.
Yes absolutely.
Marry me.
Not until you admit that LC is the album Joe wanted the 101ers to make.
It is a classic 1974 pub rock album, very much like Ducks Deluxe or the early Graham Parker* material. Very much a retreat to the comforting fantasies of the past in the face of an uncertain future. But the 101ers were a bit more frantic and cathartic, whereas LC is more sedate and mannered.

*I think Lover's Rock sounds exactly like something off of Squeezing Out Sparks.
Nah more like an outtake from East Side Story by Squeeze. Wow it was ahead of it's time. :shifty:

Re: SOUNDBOARD UPGRADE BRIXTON 30 JULY 1982

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 7:05pm
by CorwoodRep
I think the 101ers hold up a lot better than other pub rock groups. I'd rather listen to the Elgin compilation than Down By The Jetty or whatever, at any rate.

Re: SOUNDBOARD UPGRADE BRIXTON 30 JULY 1982

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 7:06pm
by Marky Dread
Kaleb wrote:I think the 101ers hold up a lot better than other pub rock groups. I'd rather listen to the Elgin compilation than Down By The Jetty or whatever, at any rate.
Have you forgotten to take your meds again?

Re: SOUNDBOARD UPGRADE BRIXTON 30 JULY 1982

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 7:21pm
by 101Walterton
Marky Dread wrote:
101Walterton wrote:
IkarisOne wrote:
101Walterton wrote:
IkarisOne wrote:
[youtube][/youtube]

Tell me the truth, though- wouldn't it be a million times better if all the guitars sounded like this on the whole record? The Clash's real sound - flamethrowing guitars drenched in reverb and layers of distortion- kicks the living shit out of any of the studio-created substitutes.
Yes absolutely.
Marry me.
Not until you admit that LC is the album Joe wanted the 101ers to make.
The 101ers had some musical chops. But fuck me what a lack of style. Can you imagine the LC video with Don Lets shooting 5 tramps outside Lisson Grove labour exchange.
Yes but by then Joe would sacked everyone else and brought in a guy who could play guitar, a guy who looked good on stage and a great drummer.

Re: SOUNDBOARD UPGRADE BRIXTON 30 JULY 1982

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 7:26pm
by Marky Dread
101Walterton wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
101Walterton wrote:
IkarisOne wrote:
101Walterton wrote: Yes absolutely.
Marry me.
Not until you admit that LC is the album Joe wanted the 101ers to make.
The 101ers had some musical chops. But fuck me what a lack of style. Can you imagine the LC video with Don Lets shooting 5 tramps outside Lisson Grove labour exchange.
Yes but by then Joe would sacked everyone else and brought in a guy who could play guitar, a guy who looked good on stage and a great drummer.
...and then Bernie would've ditched them and brought in some synths and a beat box.

Re: SOUNDBOARD UPGRADE BRIXTON 30 JULY 1982

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 7:27pm
by 101Walterton
Marky Dread wrote:
101Walterton wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
101Walterton wrote:
IkarisOne wrote: Marry me.
Not until you admit that LC is the album Joe wanted the 101ers to make.

The 101ers had some musical chops. But fuck me what a lack of style. Can you imagine the LC video with Don Lets shooting 5 tramps outside Lisson Grove labour exchange.
Yes but by then Joe would sacked everyone else and brought in a guy who could play guitar, a guy who looked good on stage and a great drummer.
...and then Bernie would've dithed them and brought in some synths and a beat box.
Thank fuck Joe got out when he did and joined the Clash then.

Re: SOUNDBOARD UPGRADE BRIXTON 30 JULY 1982

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 7:28pm
by Marky Dread
101Walterton wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
101Walterton wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
101Walterton wrote: Not until you admit that LC is the album Joe wanted the 101ers to make.

The 101ers had some musical chops. But fuck me what a lack of style. Can you imagine the LC video with Don Lets shooting 5 tramps outside Lisson Grove labour exchange.
Yes but by then Joe would sacked everyone else and brought in a guy who could play guitar, a guy who looked good on stage and a great drummer.
...and then Bernie would've dithed them and brought in some synths and a beat box.
Thank fuck Joe got out when he did and joined the Clash then.
No Bernie was The Clash. ;)

Re: SOUNDBOARD UPGRADE BRIXTON 30 JULY 1982

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 7:31pm
by Heston
IkarisOne wrote:
101Walterton wrote:LC was the best 101ers album.

[youtube][/youtube]

Tell me the truth, though- wouldn't it be a million times better if all the guitars sounded like this on the whole record? The Clash's real sound - flamethrowing guitars drenched in reverb and layers of distortion- kicks the living shit out of any of the studio-created substitutes.
I think the recorded versions of LC and TiV are perfect. I like records to sound like records and live to sound like live.

Re: SOUNDBOARD UPGRADE BRIXTON 30 JULY 1982

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 7:36pm
by Marky Dread
Heston wrote:
IkarisOne wrote:
101Walterton wrote:LC was the best 101ers album.

[youtube][/youtube]

Tell me the truth, though- wouldn't it be a million times better if all the guitars sounded like this on the whole record? The Clash's real sound - flamethrowing guitars drenched in reverb and layers of distortion- kicks the living shit out of any of the studio-created substitutes.
I think the recorded versions of LC and TiV are perfect. I like records to sound like records and live to sound like live.
I'm happy in both camps.