As an example, I love the Jaap Edenhall version of Somebody Got Murdered, but also love the ethereal sound of the studio recording.Marky Dread wrote:I'm happy in both camps.Heston wrote:I think the recorded versions of LC and TiV are perfect. I like records to sound like records and live to sound like live.IkarisOne wrote:101Walterton wrote:LC was the best 101ers album.
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Tell me the truth, though- wouldn't it be a million times better if all the guitars sounded like this on the whole record? The Clash's real sound - flamethrowing guitars drenched in reverb and layers of distortion- kicks the living shit out of any of the studio-created substitutes.
SOUNDBOARD UPGRADE BRIXTON 30 JULY 1982
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There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
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No version of London Calling is better than the studio version. Live LC wasn't even that good, mainly because of Joe's tendency of screwing the lyrics up right from the start.
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I don't know that intro can send shivers down your spine.Chuck Mangione wrote:No version of London Calling is better than the studio version. Live LC wasn't even that good, mainly because of Joe's tendency of screwing the lyrics up right from the start.
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Re: SOUNDBOARD UPGRADE BRIXTON 30 JULY 1982
The crowd did love that intro. And a great set opener.
But still, studio version.. bar none.
But still, studio version.. bar none.
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Studio LC is a battlefield of slashing guitars and brooding bass. Add the always interesting drum beat and what's not to like? One of the greatest recordings ever made for me, certainly one of the Clash's finest.Chuck Mangione wrote:No version of London Calling is better than the studio version. Live LC wasn't even that good, mainly because of Joe's tendency of screwing the lyrics up right from the start.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
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The studio is perfect however live can still be brilliant.Heston wrote:Studio LC is a battlefield of slashing guitars and brooding bass. Add the always interesting drum beat and what's not to like? One of the greatest recordings ever made for me, certainly one of the Clash's finest.Chuck Mangione wrote:No version of London Calling is better than the studio version. Live LC wasn't even that good, mainly because of Joe's tendency of screwing the lyrics up right from the start.
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Ahem:
Can't it be both?
Binary thinking will kill us all.
Can't it be both?
Binary thinking will kill us all.
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This is the Clash. Manichean thinking dominates and destroys pussy ploys of simple enjoyment.Wolter wrote:Ahem:
Can't it be both?
Binary thinking will kill us all.
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Totally. As Chuck pointed out though, it was often let down by Joe's lyrical confusion. And he sang it better in the studio than he ever did live. The nuance and passion he puts into the recorded vocal makes a two-note vocal melody sound enthralling.101Walterton wrote:The studio is perfect however live can still be brilliant.Heston wrote:Studio LC is a battlefield of slashing guitars and brooding bass. Add the always interesting drum beat and what's not to like? One of the greatest recordings ever made for me, certainly one of the Clash's finest.Chuck Mangione wrote:No version of London Calling is better than the studio version. Live LC wasn't even that good, mainly because of Joe's tendency of screwing the lyrics up right from the start.
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Live can be a great as the studio version but it can never surpass it.
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I don't agree there are a ton of tracks that sound far better than their recorded counterparts.Chuck Mangione wrote:Live can be a great as the studio version but it can never surpass it.
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Re: SOUNDBOARD UPGRADE BRIXTON 30 JULY 1982
I wouldn't mind all of the pub rock Clash and Blockhead Clash and pseudo-Police Clash if that stuff was consigned to the bootleg ghetto, not the other way around. The problem is that you were cheated out of real Clash in favor of soft-rock Clash because they were trying to be sell a lot of records in America. And there isn't one single song on those three albums that wouldn't be infinitely greater had it been played with the same energy and commitment of Cost of Living. Not a one.
That's the problem- they were lying about who they were because of greed and ambition, not because they were fighting to free the proletarian class from oppression. Those are fake records because they don't record the way the band played in any real-world setting.
That's the problem- they were lying about who they were because of greed and ambition, not because they were fighting to free the proletarian class from oppression. Those are fake records because they don't record the way the band played in any real-world setting.
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POMBIkarisOne wrote:I wouldn't mind all of the pub rock Clash and Blockhead Clash and pseudo-Police Clash if that stuff was consigned to the bootleg ghetto, not the other way around. The problem is that you were cheated out of real Clash in favor of soft-rock Clash because they were trying to be sell a lot of records in America. And there isn't one single song on those three albums that wouldn't be infinitely greater had it been played with the same energy and commitment of Cost of Living. Not a one.
That's the problem- they were lying about who they were because of greed and ambition, not because they were fighting to free the proletarian class from oppression. Those are fake records because they don't record the way the band played in any real-world setting.
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Couldn't complain about any of the LC album production-wise, but I prefer the Rock Band mix personally. The guitars, bass and keys are all louder. I keep meaning to edit out those annoying count-ins but never get around to it.
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"Live LC can be as great" that should have read.Marky Dread wrote:I don't agree there are a ton of tracks that sound far better than their recorded counterparts.Chuck Mangione wrote:Live can be a great as the studio version but it can never surpass it.