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Am I the only one who likes this song?
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I think it's a decent song. Not my favorite, but enjoyable.
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eumaas wrote:Am I the only one who likes this song?
No, I like it too.
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Me too, great riffs, great vocal. Maybe the lyrics are a little off with the rest of of Clash UK, but I think it's swell and very aggro in it's execution.

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I like it better than garageland and 48 hours.
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eumaas wrote:I like it better than garageland and 48 hours.
They should have given Garageland to Jimmy Pursey in exchange for never sharing the stage with them.

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Album version is devoid of energy, which is why I would've preferred some of the other '76 material in place. But live it was great...I think the Leicester soundboard version is one of the best '77 live cuts of any kind because it's so damn pissed off from guitar down to vox. Mick and Joe were totally venting their spleens at every bad relationship they'd ever been in. That kind of attitude actually makes the non-punk subject matter sound punk. Unfortunately that extra-angry chip on the shoulder was kind of missing from the studio take; that was the thing that brought it all together.

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Rat Patrol wrote:Album version is devoid of energy, which is why I would've preferred some of the other '76 material in place. But live it was great...I think the Leicester soundboard version is one of the best '77 live cuts of any kind because it's so damn pissed off from guitar down to vox. That kind of attitude actually makes the non-punk subject matter sound punk. Unfortunately that extra-angry chip on the shoulder was kind of missing from the studio take.
I kinda disagree, I really like it when Joe spits, you won't know the truth if it hits you in the eye!, and the following staccatto riff slashes out. I'm sure there are superior live versions, but I never felt the studio version was deficient.

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Rat Patrol wrote:Album version is devoid of energy, which is why I would've preferred some of the other '76 material in place. But live it was great...I think the Leicester soundboard version is one of the best '77 live cuts of any kind because it's so damn pissed off from guitar down to vox. Mick and Joe were totally venting their spleens at every bad relationship they'd ever been in. That kind of attitude actually makes the non-punk subject matter sound punk. Unfortunately that extra-angry chip on the shoulder was kind of missing from the studio take; that was the thing that brought it all together.
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threecoffins wrote:
Rat Patrol wrote:Album version is devoid of energy, which is why I would've preferred some of the other '76 material in place. But live it was great...I think the Leicester soundboard version is one of the best '77 live cuts of any kind because it's so damn pissed off from guitar down to vox. That kind of attitude actually makes the non-punk subject matter sound punk. Unfortunately that extra-angry chip on the shoulder was kind of missing from the studio take.
I kinda disagree, I really like it when Joe spits, you won't know the truth if it hits you in the eye!, and the following staccatto riff slashes out. I'm sure there are superior live versions, but I never felt the studio version was deficient.
Bingo. Plus, almost all their shit is better live anyway--it's moot.
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eumaas wrote:
threecoffins wrote:
Rat Patrol wrote:Album version is devoid of energy, which is why I would've preferred some of the other '76 material in place. But live it was great...I think the Leicester soundboard version is one of the best '77 live cuts of any kind because it's so damn pissed off from guitar down to vox. That kind of attitude actually makes the non-punk subject matter sound punk. Unfortunately that extra-angry chip on the shoulder was kind of missing from the studio take.
I kinda disagree, I really like it when Joe spits, you won't know the truth if it hits you in the eye!, and the following staccatto riff slashes out. I'm sure there are superior live versions, but I never felt the studio version was deficient.
Bingo. Plus, almost all their shit is better live anyway--it's moot.
I like it better than 48 hours, but not better than Garageland.
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Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Wolter wrote:
eumaas wrote:
threecoffins wrote:
Rat Patrol wrote:Album version is devoid of energy, which is why I would've preferred some of the other '76 material in place. But live it was great...I think the Leicester soundboard version is one of the best '77 live cuts of any kind because it's so damn pissed off from guitar down to vox. That kind of attitude actually makes the non-punk subject matter sound punk. Unfortunately that extra-angry chip on the shoulder was kind of missing from the studio take.
I kinda disagree, I really like it when Joe spits, you won't know the truth if it hits you in the eye!, and the following staccatto riff slashes out. I'm sure there are superior live versions, but I never felt the studio version was deficient.
Bingo. Plus, almost all their shit is better live anyway--it's moot.
I like it better than 48 hours, but not better than Garageland.
Joe's voice is so out of tune on Garageland (not a problem when he's spitting words, becomes a problem when he's trying to maintain a melody) that it hurts.
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Wolter wrote:
eumaas wrote:
threecoffins wrote:
Rat Patrol wrote:Album version is devoid of energy, which is why I would've preferred some of the other '76 material in place. But live it was great...I think the Leicester soundboard version is one of the best '77 live cuts of any kind because it's so damn pissed off from guitar down to vox. That kind of attitude actually makes the non-punk subject matter sound punk. Unfortunately that extra-angry chip on the shoulder was kind of missing from the studio take.
I kinda disagree, I really like it when Joe spits, you won't know the truth if it hits you in the eye!, and the following staccatto riff slashes out. I'm sure there are superior live versions, but I never felt the studio version was deficient.
Bingo. Plus, almost all their shit is better live anyway--it's moot.
I like it better than 48 hours, but not better than Garageland.
Garageland is superb. The album version actually has a kind of sweet vocal melody (relatively speaking) in the beginning.

As for better in studio than live- Corner Soul, Guns of Brixton, London Calling (maybe), Safe European Home (with a few exceptions), Wrong Em Boyo. That's all I can think of off the top of my ever-correct head.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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eumaas wrote:
Wolter wrote:
eumaas wrote:
threecoffins wrote:
Rat Patrol wrote:Album version is devoid of energy, which is why I would've preferred some of the other '76 material in place. But live it was great...I think the Leicester soundboard version is one of the best '77 live cuts of any kind because it's so damn pissed off from guitar down to vox. That kind of attitude actually makes the non-punk subject matter sound punk. Unfortunately that extra-angry chip on the shoulder was kind of missing from the studio take.
I kinda disagree, I really like it when Joe spits, you won't know the truth if it hits you in the eye!, and the following staccatto riff slashes out. I'm sure there are superior live versions, but I never felt the studio version was deficient.
Bingo. Plus, almost all their shit is better live anyway--it's moot.
I like it better than 48 hours, but not better than Garageland.
Joe's voice is so out of tune on Garageland (not a problem when he's spitting words, becomes a problem when he's trying to maintain a melody) that it hurts.
I'm tone deaf, so what to I care?
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