Rationalising Sandinista!
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Silent Majority
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Though both should probably have been b-sides. Let me get to work on my Sandinista!
It's going to be a downloadable thought exercise.
It's going to be a downloadable thought exercise.
- Heston
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Junkie Slip is an abomination.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
- Marky Dread
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love both songs. Hitsville could've been so much more.Silent Majority wrote:Love Hitsville, prefer Lose This Skin.
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I dig the lyrics and music on LTS, just not Tymon's voice. If Mick sang the song, I would've loved it.Marky Dread wrote:love both songs. Hitsville could've been so much more.Silent Majority wrote:Love Hitsville, prefer Lose This Skin.
- 101Walterton
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Agreed. Like the tune but just don't like Tymon's vocals it sounds like it is on the wrong speed.BR16ADE_R055E wrote:I dig the lyrics and music on LTS, just not Tymon's voice. If Mick sang the song, I would've loved it.Marky Dread wrote:love both songs. Hitsville could've been so much more.Silent Majority wrote:Love Hitsville, prefer Lose This Skin.
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Silent Majority
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Here's my Broadway remix - the single the Clash released to build anticipation for their upcoming album, La Revolucion. There are, of course, no children singing at the end of this.
http://depositfiles.com/files/9zcnlnjl5
http://depositfiles.com/files/9zcnlnjl5
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Chuck Mangione
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Me too.BR16ADE_R055E wrote:"Hitsville U.K." isn't so bad, even w/ Ellen's vocals. I prefer her vocals to Tymon's in "Lose This Skin."JennyB wrote:I heard Shitsville on Sirius/XM's First Wave today.
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When Mick performed it with his daughter a few years back, it was actually great.Marky Dread wrote:love both songs. Hitsville could've been so much more.Silent Majority wrote:Love Hitsville, prefer Lose This Skin.
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- 101Walterton
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Yes I thought that was good as well, I've always liked Hitsville.JennyB wrote:When Mick performed it with his daughter a few years back, it was actually great.Marky Dread wrote:love both songs. Hitsville could've been so much more.Silent Majority wrote:Love Hitsville, prefer Lose This Skin.
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I like the vocals on Lose This Skin just fine.
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IMO SAE is a key track in any rationalization of Sandinista!, because it's the best song not to sound like the Clash. Giving it a spot on there is similar to, as Flex suggested, sticking IFTL on the US S/T. Some people go for it, while others find the aesthetics too contrasting. Though it's quality would merit inclusion, it's one of the several top-tier songs (among RW and LGC) that would tip a 1LP S! mix too far from their "organic" sound at the time.Heston wrote:Any Sandinista tracklist without Something About England is a crime against humanity.
I think my tracklist, Sand! --Side A: Mag 7, Leader, SMG, OMT, Call Up, Washington Bullets; Side B: POMB, Kingston, Corner, Charlie, UIH, Broadway, SP -- actually sounds, from start to finish, like it really did come from the minds of the same band that released London Calling a mere 363 days earlier, and I can see the logical progression in each from the White Riot single. I just feel that SAE would spoil that effect.
On another note, a 1LP S! has got to be sequenced differently from the order in which the remaining songs appeared. Broadway does not sound like a Clash song following Call up and WB, but it does following IUH. Charlie and the Call Up are the other big one's that need to be placed delicately. Otherwise they just don't sound like the Clash. There is a specific philosophical term to describe this effect, but i can't recall the name. The Greeks always harped on about it.
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Have to disagree with this. SAE does sound like the Clash and fits perfectly on Sandinista alongside songs like Somebody Got Murdered. IFTL on US s/t is another issue altogether.msza2 wrote:IMO SAE is a key track in any rationalization of Sandinista!, because it's the best song not to sound like the Clash. Giving it a spot on there is similar to, as Flex suggested, sticking IFTL on the US S/T. Some people go for it, while others find the aesthetics too contrasting. Though it's quality would merit inclusion, it's one of the several top-tier songs (among RW and LGC) that would tip a 1LP S! mix too far from their "organic" sound at the time.Heston wrote:Any Sandinista tracklist without Something About England is a crime against humanity.
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Chairman Ralph
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I never had a problem with 'em, either -- Tymon Dogg's voice is what it is, and you either like, it or you don't, I suppose.I like the vocals on Lose This Skin just fine.
Agreed: SAE was one of the tracks that made an immediate impression on me, as soon as I heard it. To me, it's one of the Clash's all-time best "big topic" songs -- hell, who else would have attempted to summarize the UK's postwar decline in three-and-a-half-minutes, or thereabouts?Have to disagree with this. SAE does sound like the Clash and fits perfectly on Sandinista alongside songs like Somebody Got Murdered. IFTL on US s/t is another issue altogether.
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Hello,
Supply side economic research states competition among individual entities ("tracks") will bring about maximum benefits to all classes of listeners and ... sorry, just realized it's Rationalizing Sandinista not Nationalizing Sandinista...carry on.
Supply side economic research states competition among individual entities ("tracks") will bring about maximum benefits to all classes of listeners and ... sorry, just realized it's Rationalizing Sandinista not Nationalizing Sandinista...carry on.
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+1gkbill wrote:Hello,
Supply side economic research states competition among individual entities ("tracks") will bring about maximum benefits to all classes of listeners and ... sorry, just realized it's Rationalizing Sandinista not Nationalizing Sandinista...carry on.
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