Clash Live Series (Only an idea)

[Kory]

For the record, I got it right away. It's not easy being a super genius but it pays off sometimes.

[muppet hi fi]

So is it Bonds? Just audio, or video too? Or 'Clash On Broadway' complete? Dudes, I'm dyin ovah heah...

[white man]

[Red Angel]

I imagine that almost everyone (even me) prefer to have full concerts released, but I must admit that the idea of one, or more, compilations with songs from various periods, well mixed as FHTE, has its charm.

[Kory]

Teddy, any sense on whether/how COVID will be affecting whatever this release is?

[TeddyB Not Logged In]

Teddy, any sense on whether/how COVID will be affecting whatever this release is?

No. I haven't discussed this kind of stuff with Mick since the weird times began. I imagine it would do though. There's no fifty year copyright issue looming and I think proper promotion of this release would encompass things inconducive to social distancing. That said, again, I don't know, nor do I know how close it is/was to being finished. I shall say no more.

[Kory]

Teddy, any sense on whether/how COVID will be affecting whatever this release is?

No. I haven't discussed this kind of stuff with Mick since the weird times began. I imagine it would do though. There's no fifty year copyright issue looming and I think proper promotion of this release would encompass things inconducive to social distancing. That said, again, I don't know, nor do I know how close it is/was to being finished. I shall say no more.

Thanks for responding!

[matedog]

Per the Lewisham soundboard discussion, looks like we can confirm night 1 of Shea as well in the Sony vaults. I revised the initial post to include that. Not nearly as compelling, but interesting to note how much they have in the vaults confirmed.

[Marky Dread]

Bruce has been releasing a ton of his professionally recorded shows (and some semi-professionally recorded) via the Nugs website. This includes a lot of his legendary shows which has been a lot of fun to finally get these shows. There's been some inconsistency with some of the mixes, but it's generally been great for the fans as they have been sitting on a lot these tapes for 40+ years.

That got me fantasizing about The Clash doing a similar thing - professionally mixed releases of their live archive. Let's be honest, they probably aren't going to have big sellers worthy of promotion like the one time they tried with the woeful Live at Shea. Why not release these tapes via a similar site like Nugs to monetize these tapes that are collecting dust?

Using FHTE as a baseline of stuff we KNOW Sony has in their archives, I could see these being possible for release:

1979-01-03 - Lyceum - Easy promo since professional footage of this show
1980-02-18 - Lewisham - Easy promo since professional footage of this show
1981-06-08 - Bonds - Easy promo since professional footage of this show
1981-06-09 - Bonds - Easy promo since professional footage of this show
1982-09-07 - Boston
1982-09-08 - Boston
1982-10-12 - Shea Night 1



Stuff Sony *might* have access to (this is hard with BMC down, so I'm going on memory and am probably missing some stuff):
1982-02-25 - Hong Kong - I believe this was a radio broadcast, so perhaps a pre-broadcast tape is available.
1981-05-10 - Teddy B mentioned Sony was planning on releasing this as part of a S! anniversary release. That strongly suggests they have the tapes.
1977-05-28 - I believe this was a radio broadcast, so perhaps a pre-broadcast tape is available.
1976-Various - There's a rumor that Mickey Foote recorded a bunch of earlier shows. Perhaps through 1977.

I could probably go on with other radio broadcasts that *might* be available, but I think you get the idea. I suppose Sony would have to determine if this would make sufficient money vs. the cost to mix and master the tapes. Ideally Sony would earn money on this release and the fans would get some great new material (win-win). Or they might hold on to something like Lewisham to package with London Calling 50th in 10 years. Though the way they handle the legacy, they'll just repackage the regular album "Special 50th Anniversary Remaster" with a picture book or something. Or something else worthless like the vanilla tapes on vinyl

...However I would love to know if just the overdub material without the "live" feed is still available. Those tracks were played on screen with The Clash playing along while they dubbed their parts over the top.

Imagine those tracks without the crowd and band being heard underneath. You've then got some great studio takes.

[matedog]

...However I would love to know if just the overdub material without the "live" feed is still available. Those tracks were played on screen with The Clash playing along while they dubbed their parts over the top.

Imagine those tracks without the crowd and band being heard underneath. You've then got some great studio takes.

Are you referring to the Rude Boy songs? As far as I know, that's the only known studio overdubs on live tracks right?

[Marky Dread]

...However I would love to know if just the overdub material without the "live" feed is still available. Those tracks were played on screen with The Clash playing along while they dubbed their parts over the top.

Imagine those tracks without the crowd and band being heard underneath. You've then got some great studio takes.

Are you referring to the Rude Boy songs? As far as I know, that's the only known studio overdubs on live tracks right?

Yes exactly. But those overdubs are literally laid on top of the live performances. I want to hear just the overdubs as stand alone tracks.

[Inder]

...However I would love to know if just the overdub material without the "live" feed is still available. Those tracks were played on screen with The Clash playing along while they dubbed their parts over the top.

Imagine those tracks without the crowd and band being heard underneath. You've then got some great studio takes.

Are you referring to the Rude Boy songs? As far as I know, that's the only known studio overdubs on live tracks right?

I'm almost certain I've read that Mick punched up/sweetened some tracks for FHTE as well.

[Telecaster]

That would be very interesting to hear. City Of The Dead sounds amazing with the overdubs. Topper's drumming really drives the whole song. If enough overdub components are intact, it makes a live studio album.

[Marky Dread]

...However I would love to know if just the overdub material without the "live" feed is still available. Those tracks were played on screen with The Clash playing along while they dubbed their parts over the top.

Imagine those tracks without the crowd and band being heard underneath. You've then got some great studio takes.

Are you referring to the Rude Boy songs? As far as I know, that's the only known studio overdubs on live tracks right?

I'm almost certain I've read that Mick punched up/sweetened some tracks for FHTE as well.

Is this true? I was under the impression it was just those tracks that had already been dubbed for "Rude Boy". Although this makes me wonder if there were any tracks that were dubbed for "Rude Boy" and not used at the time.

[Marky Dread]

That would be very interesting to hear. City Of The Dead sounds amazing with the overdubs. Topper's drumming really drives the whole song. If enough overdub components are intact, it makes a live studio album.

It was my understanding the whole band played along in the studio to the film footage.