Mick Jones – Working Class?

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Mick Jones – Working Class?

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I was browsing a book on The Specials, that cheekily took a pot shot at not only Joe, but also Mick – for being middle class
(whilst completely overlooking Dammer's public school background?!)
So, Mick – middle class...surely not?

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Not.

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Did he have a middle class upbringing? Definitely not.

Is he middle class now? I guess you could make a case for that. Depends on your definition of middle class. It’s not a political thing for me, it’s more about your standard of living. Am sure Mick is financially comfortable and has plenty leisure time. That’s kinda my definition, would guess a fair number on here would fall into that category, me included!

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rudebhoy wrote:
21 Mar 2019, 5:05am
Did he have a middle class upbringing? Definitely not.

Is he middle class now? I guess you could make a case for that. Depends on your definition of middle class. It’s not a political thing for me, it’s more about your standard of living. Am sure Mick is financially comfortable and has plenty leisure time. That’s kinda my definition, would guess a fair number on here would fall into that category, me included!
Not a straightforward question to answer i guess. I think through hard work, talent or both, or sometimes mere good fortune, we can all improve our station in life, but we don’t have to abandon the values that shaped us. That’d be my idea of mick but that’s all it is as I don’t really know him at all.

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rudebhoy wrote:
21 Mar 2019, 5:05am
Did he have a middle class upbringing? Definitely not.

Is he middle class now? I guess you could make a case for that. Depends on your definition of middle class. It’s not a political thing for me, it’s more about your standard of living. Am sure Mick is financially comfortable and has plenty leisure time. That’s kinda my definition, would guess a fair number on here would fall into that category, me included!
I doubt he has to work at all—that would put him in the upper class for me.
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Kory wrote:
21 Mar 2019, 1:06pm
rudebhoy wrote:
21 Mar 2019, 5:05am
Did he have a middle class upbringing? Definitely not.

Is he middle class now? I guess you could make a case for that. Depends on your definition of middle class. It’s not a political thing for me, it’s more about your standard of living. Am sure Mick is financially comfortable and has plenty leisure time. That’s kinda my definition, would guess a fair number on here would fall into that category, me included!
I doubt he has to work at all—that would put him in the upper class for me.
Based on the contemporary thread about Paul's divorce and assets, unless Mick has sieves his money away at the dog track, he can live comfortably off past earnings and future royalties. Of the three, Mick's gotta be better positioned based on his previous work.
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Kory wrote:
21 Mar 2019, 1:06pm
rudebhoy wrote:
21 Mar 2019, 5:05am
Did he have a middle class upbringing? Definitely not.

Is he middle class now? I guess you could make a case for that. Depends on your definition of middle class. It’s not a political thing for me, it’s more about your standard of living. Am sure Mick is financially comfortable and has plenty leisure time. That’s kinda my definition, would guess a fair number on here would fall into that category, me included!
I doubt he has to work at all—that would put him in the upper class for me.
Based upon the other thread about Simmo's court case with his ex-wife - no - I'd seriously doubt Mick has to work ever again. Paul's future royalties were valued at 10 million pounds (13 million US).
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Certainly by any normal standards we are talking about a wealthy individual here, but that doesn’t automatically make him a member of the upper class. Not that it probably matters much anyway, but I think class distinction is a more nuanced thing than that. I certainly couldn’t look at Mick and ever think upper class anyway.

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There's cultural working class which our boy absolutely is, then the technical definition where someone who has to sell their labour to live, which he is not.

Mick's no capitalist, that's what matters. None of his vast wealth came from exploiting the workers.
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Silent Majority wrote:
21 Mar 2019, 1:52pm
Mick's no capitalist, that's what matters. None of his vast wealth came from exploiting the workers.
I know capitalism doesn't work because I've been exploiting your labor for like five years now and I haven't made any money from it.
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Flex wrote:
21 Mar 2019, 2:00pm
Silent Majority wrote:
21 Mar 2019, 1:52pm
Mick's no capitalist, that's what matters. None of his vast wealth came from exploiting the workers.
I know capitalism doesn't work because I've been exploiting your labor for like five years now and I haven't made any money from it.
You can't make money exploiting the Irish, dummy.
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Really couldn't give a fuck.
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Silent Majority wrote:
21 Mar 2019, 2:01pm
Flex wrote:
21 Mar 2019, 2:00pm
Silent Majority wrote:
21 Mar 2019, 1:52pm
Mick's no capitalist, that's what matters. None of his vast wealth came from exploiting the workers.
I know capitalism doesn't work because I've been exploiting your labor for like five years now and I haven't made any money from it.
You can't make money exploiting the Irish, dummy.
Just ask Alex Ferguson.

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Flex wrote:
21 Mar 2019, 2:00pm
Silent Majority wrote:
21 Mar 2019, 1:52pm
Mick's no capitalist, that's what matters. None of his vast wealth came from exploiting the workers.
I know capitalism doesn't work because I've been exploiting your labor for like five years now and I haven't made any money from it.
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