Bored With The USA lyrics correction

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After reading Alfred W. McCoy's book
The Politics Of Heroin In Southeast Asia (1972) ,
it finally dawned on me what the actual Joe Strummer lyric is
at the end of the I'm So Bored With The USA (1977) anthem song:

To you I'm talking,
the CIA,
Saigon's drugging,
the USA.

The book describes Saigon international airport (i.e. south Vietnam capital (Ho Chi Minh City) )
as the main trans-shipment point
for the heroin grown in the Golden Triangle (Burma and thereabouts),
to the USA and Europe.
That is, while the US army and the CIA (Central Intelligence Agency)
were occupying Vietnam,
they actually boosted, not destroyed, the opium production there.

Interestingly, as the decades passed, after the end of the Vietnam War (1975)
Afghanistan (the Golden Crescent)
became the main opium producer with 350 sq. miles cultivated by 1999.
Then the Taliban banned the poppy in 2000 and reduced the cultivation
to 30 sq. miles.
Then in 2001 the USA with Britain decided to attack and defeat the Taliban
in Afghanistan. This had the immediate result that the opium production
in Afghanistan rocketed back from 30 sq. miles to 285 sq. miles cultivated by 2002.

Clearly many generals in the US military and CIA commanders
are being bribed to facilitate this opium production.
Yet, I have never heard of Congress performing Oversight hearings to find out
which US generals and CIA operatives are receiving those bribes.

Oxycontin is derived from the opium poppy.
It was introduced in 1995 by Purdue Pharma.
US Doctors regularly receive cash kickbacks from pharmaceutical companies
for prescribing their drugs to their unwitting patients.

It would be interesting to know whether Oxycontin manufacturer
Purdue Pharma has any connection to any US military/CIA operatives.
Did George W. Bush and his staff have any contact with Purdue Pharma, especially
with the tax money giveaway to pharmaceutical companies in the
Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act (2003).

How could the Taliban have been successful at banning the opium production
with their pea-shooters, and the US military/CIA fail to do the same ?
Supposedly, that is the purpose of US congressional Oversight.

Clearly Strummer foresaw the effect of the US military/CIA on opium production.
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Wrong forum -- how do I delete from this forum ?

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Aeneas wrote:
03 Mar 2019, 3:42am
Wrong forum -- how do I delete from this forum ?
YOU CAN'T! HAHAHHA! Usually we just replace our post's body copy with some information about where the correct one now resides.
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Kory wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 3:02pm
Aeneas wrote:
03 Mar 2019, 3:42am
Wrong forum -- how do I delete from this forum ?
YOU CAN'T! HAHAHHA! Usually we just replace our post's body copy with some information about where the correct one now resides.
Or delete everything bar the full stop once you got over your rage :shifty:

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Surely it's the more commonly known...

Move up, Starsky
For the C.I.A.
Suck on Kojak
For the USA
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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That rendition is clearly fraudulent and sounds like
the organized crime connected record company trying to obscure
the true meaning of the song.
Every lyrics website page seems to present the same nonsense.

Note, this is a song which begins with a Vietnam War/Heroin reference:

Yankee soldier,
he wants to shoot some skag [to inject heroin],
he made it in Cambodia,
but now, he can't afford a bag [now that he is back in the USA] .

And we know that the US Air Force was directly involved in flying
heroin from the Golden Triangle to New York City, from the
Frank Lucas (drug dealer/drug kingpin) exploits, which can be read on Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lucas_(drug_dealer)
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I once had a raccoon I called Aeneas. He managed to escape from a burning barn, carrying his father on his back.
Who pfaffed the pfaff? Who got pfaffed tonight?

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Aeneas wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 4:16pm
That rendition is clearly fraudulent and sounds like
the organized crime connected record company trying to obscure
the true meaning of the song.
Every lyrics website page seems to present the same nonsense.

Note, this is a song which begins with a Vietnam War/Heroin reference:

Yankee soldier,
he wants to shoot some skag [to inject heroin],
he made it in Cambodia,
but now, he can't afford a bag .

And we know that the US Air Force was directly involved in flying
heroin from the Golden Triangle to New York City, from the
Frank Lucas (drug dealer/drug kingpin) exploits, which can be read on Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lucas_(drug_dealer)
It's a nice conspiracy but I'm not buying it. I know what the opening lyrics refer to but Joe also mentions "Yankee detectives" which ties in nicely with the references to Starsky and Kojak.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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In the middle of the song, Strummer highlights the societal chaos
that heroin causes.
Clearly, he knows that a lot of that heroin is coming into
UK Gatwick and Heathrow airports and is destroying his UK friends,
(in addition to any dedicated US military airports in the UK)
but he realizes that the only solution to the problem
is to persuade the US authorities to stop that heroin flow
from the US Air Force.
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You won't be able to get rid of him, once you start feeding the raccoon.
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Bored with the bored with the usa correction threads

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Low Down Low wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 9:21pm
Bored with the bored with the usa correction threads
Sounds like the record company talking here.

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Aeneas wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 9:29pm
Low Down Low wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 9:21pm
Bored with the bored with the usa correction threads
Sounds like the record company talking here.
Sounds like you are making up your own theory.

Heroin wasn't destroying Strummer's friends. Their own stupidity did that and Joe singing about Heroin killing his friends in 1976 is stupid talk how many of Joe's squatting community do you think could afford a bag of Heroin? Sure the Heartbreakers famously took Heroin but they were not to blame for the likes of Sid taking it as he had taken it even before he joined the Pistols and met Thunders etc. So I wonder exactly who you think these friends were Joe was allegedly singing about?

The UK drug of choice for the punks and soul boys was Speed becuase it was cheap (affordable) and served it purpose for all-nighters.

You changing the ad-libs to suit your own narrative/conspiracy doesn't make it right.

Should change the name of the song back to it's original title "I'm So Bored with You".
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Flex wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 12:19pm
this thread is funny
Drugs kill nothing funny about that sonny boy! ;)
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