BBC Clash Project

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Hammy wrote:
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...I DON'T GIVE A FUCK.
Then stop posting.
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Kory wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 1:07pm
Then stop posting.
good advice for all of us, probably
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Hammy wrote:
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Yeah well – I'm Scottish (but consider myself British)...so get it up ya!
Yup, least Lay Down Low's keeping it real – to some respect.
If it's 'no small beans' – why are we bothering with punk rock gigs from 77 etc?
The whole Don Letts 6 Music side of things...is just a sign of the band's appropriation in later years.
As far as being tipped off by my big brother – glad your doing your homework
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Theory: Hammy is nsc.
Supporting evidence: Scottish, belligerent asshole.
Conclusion: Pending.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 1:33pm
Theory: Hammy is nsc.
Supporting evidence: Scottish, belligerent asshole.
Conclusion: Pending.
How’s the racism quotient?
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Wolter wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 1:37pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 1:33pm
Theory: Hammy is nsc.
Supporting evidence: Scottish, belligerent asshole.
Conclusion: Pending.
How’s the racism quotient?
Absent, as far as I know, but there's strong homophobia in its place. Perhaps an evolution in whatever brain rot disease he's suffering from?
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I don’t think anyone is denying that The Clash were given the cold shoulder by Radio 1 (BBC) for a long time. No doubt their TOTP stance didn’t help.
Things changed with RTC and SISOSIG both of which got airplay that summer.
Coincidence Combat Rock was their most successful album commercially? No the two go hand in hand.

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Still a bit surprised RtC didn't have a better run in the charts, its not my favourite song by far but it always sounded like a song that could have done much better than it did. Funny that SISOSIG significantly outperformed it in the UK while it was the opposite in the US. I assume perhaps the MTV factor may explain the latter.

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Low Down Low wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 2:54pm
Still a bit surprised RtC didn't have a better run in the charts, its not my favourite song by far but it always sounded like a song that could have done much better than it did. Funny that SISOSIG significantly outperformed it in the UK while it was the opposite in the US. I assume perhaps the MTV factor may explain the latter.
Though Casbah only got the number 30 in the UK, it had quite a long run in the charts. These were the days when a song could hang around for a long time and sell lots of copies without breaking the top 20.

Edit: Ten weeks on the chart which isn't bad at all.
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Heston wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 2:58pm
Low Down Low wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 2:54pm
Still a bit surprised RtC didn't have a better run in the charts, its not my favourite song by far but it always sounded like a song that could have done much better than it did. Funny that SISOSIG significantly outperformed it in the UK while it was the opposite in the US. I assume perhaps the MTV factor may explain the latter.
Though Casbah only got the number 30 in the UK, it had quite a long run in the charts. These were the days when a song could hang around for a long time and sell lots of copies without breaking the top 20.
In the US circa 1993-4, it was the only Clash song 90% of the people I met knew.
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Heston wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 2:58pm
Low Down Low wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 2:54pm
Still a bit surprised RtC didn't have a better run in the charts, its not my favourite song by far but it always sounded like a song that could have done much better than it did. Funny that SISOSIG significantly outperformed it in the UK while it was the opposite in the US. I assume perhaps the MTV factor may explain the latter.
Though Casbah only got the number 30 in the UK, it had quite a long run in the charts. These were the days when a song could hang around for a long time and sell lots of copies without breaking the top 20.
They sold in much bigger numbers too compared to now. Shame all the chart records get beaten by nobodies when you look at the amount of records actually sold.

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Wolter wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 3:03pm
Heston wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 2:58pm
Low Down Low wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 2:54pm
Still a bit surprised RtC didn't have a better run in the charts, its not my favourite song by far but it always sounded like a song that could have done much better than it did. Funny that SISOSIG significantly outperformed it in the UK while it was the opposite in the US. I assume perhaps the MTV factor may explain the latter.
Though Casbah only got the number 30 in the UK, it had quite a long run in the charts. These were the days when a song could hang around for a long time and sell lots of copies without breaking the top 20.
In the US circa 1993-4, it was the only Clash song 90% of the people I met knew.
It got an unfortunate reintroduction to the general public during Gulf War I. Punk rock jingoistic takedown of dirty A-rabs, yeah!
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 3:07pm
Wolter wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 3:03pm
Heston wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 2:58pm
Low Down Low wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 2:54pm
Still a bit surprised RtC didn't have a better run in the charts, its not my favourite song by far but it always sounded like a song that could have done much better than it did. Funny that SISOSIG significantly outperformed it in the UK while it was the opposite in the US. I assume perhaps the MTV factor may explain the latter.
Though Casbah only got the number 30 in the UK, it had quite a long run in the charts. These were the days when a song could hang around for a long time and sell lots of copies without breaking the top 20.
In the US circa 1993-4, it was the only Clash song 90% of the people I met knew.
It got an unfortunate reintroduction to the general public during Gulf War I. Punk rock jingoistic takedown of dirty A-rabs, yeah!
I honestly am amazed at how completely the Clash disappeared down the (EDIT: AMERICAN) public memory hole in the years just before the Green Day/Offspring/Rancid pop-punk revival era.

The only people I knew who were aware of them were punks. And most of them considered the Clash sellouts.
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Wolter wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 3:09pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 3:07pm
Wolter wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 3:03pm
Heston wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 2:58pm
Low Down Low wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 2:54pm
Still a bit surprised RtC didn't have a better run in the charts, its not my favourite song by far but it always sounded like a song that could have done much better than it did. Funny that SISOSIG significantly outperformed it in the UK while it was the opposite in the US. I assume perhaps the MTV factor may explain the latter.
Though Casbah only got the number 30 in the UK, it had quite a long run in the charts. These were the days when a song could hang around for a long time and sell lots of copies without breaking the top 20.
In the US circa 1993-4, it was the only Clash song 90% of the people I met knew.
It got an unfortunate reintroduction to the general public during Gulf War I. Punk rock jingoistic takedown of dirty A-rabs, yeah!
I honestly am amazed at how completely the Clash disappeared down the (EDIT: AMERICAN) public memory hole in the years just before the Green Day/Offspring/Rancid pop-punk revival era.

The only people I knew who were aware of them were punks. And most of them considered the Clash sellouts.
That documentary, 1991: The Year Punk Broke, is aptly named. Punk was such a marginal form in the 80s until Nirvana altered the landscape. My vague recollection of the Clash during their chart success of CR was that they'd been sanctified as new wave. They were little more than Flock of Seagulls or Thomas Dolby by the end of the decade.
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Wolter wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 3:03pm
Heston wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 2:58pm
Low Down Low wrote:
20 Aug 2018, 2:54pm
Still a bit surprised RtC didn't have a better run in the charts, its not my favourite song by far but it always sounded like a song that could have done much better than it did. Funny that SISOSIG significantly outperformed it in the UK while it was the opposite in the US. I assume perhaps the MTV factor may explain the latter.
Though Casbah only got the number 30 in the UK, it had quite a long run in the charts. These were the days when a song could hang around for a long time and sell lots of copies without breaking the top 20.
In the US circa 1993-4, it was the only Clash song 90% of the people I met knew.
It begs the question given the unprecedented success of RtC why they never followed up with a promo video for SIS and milked it for all it was worth. Unless there was one and I missed it, all i can think of is the Shea stadium one and not sure that was in existence back then.

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