That sounds like it was a bit of a farce. Things would have been different in a no holds barred match.laxman wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 8:58amDidn’t Ali fight a mixed martial arts opponent and get his legs badly damaged by all the kicks?Heston wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 8:48amThis takes me back to a question I once asked on here before: Who would win in a fight between Bruce Lee and Muhammad Ali? How important are Martial Arts when they meet sheer brute force?101Walterton wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 12:38amShihan JJ Burnel has over 40 years of training in martial arts.muppet hi fi wrote: ↑25 May 2018, 10:54pmProbably. Unless Johnny Thunders happened to be hanging with the Clash that night, in which case he may well have, literally, murdered JJ. Hey - "New Yawk Citaaay!"
He first started Tae Kwondo at age 19. At 21 years of age he started Kyokushinkai under Sensei Brian Crowley. In 1978 he went to Tokyo to train at the Kyokushinkaikan in Ikebukuro.
Since 1991 he has been UK branch chief of The Shidokan.
He has taught, fought and demonstrated all over the world including Japan.
He was awarded his 6th Dan in Japan in 2005 and was awarded the title Renshi in 2012.
In 2014 he was promoted to Nanadan, 7th Dan.
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There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
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I don’t watch any of that MMA or Café fighting but I would have thought that the speed and range of attack for Kung Fu or Karate( kicks punches etc) would strongly favour martial arts. It is all very well having the power but if you can’t get close enough or fast enough to land a punch it is no use to you.Heston wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 8:48amThis takes me back to a question I once asked on here before: Who would win in a fight between Bruce Lee and Muhammad Ali? How important are Martial Arts when they meet sheer brute force?101Walterton wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 12:38amShihan JJ Burnel has over 40 years of training in martial arts.muppet hi fi wrote: ↑25 May 2018, 10:54pmProbably. Unless Johnny Thunders happened to be hanging with the Clash that night, in which case he may well have, literally, murdered JJ. Hey - "New Yawk Citaaay!"
He first started Tae Kwondo at age 19. At 21 years of age he started Kyokushinkai under Sensei Brian Crowley. In 1978 he went to Tokyo to train at the Kyokushinkaikan in Ikebukuro.
Since 1991 he has been UK branch chief of The Shidokan.
He has taught, fought and demonstrated all over the world including Japan.
He was awarded his 6th Dan in Japan in 2005 and was awarded the title Renshi in 2012.
In 2014 he was promoted to Nanadan, 7th Dan.
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But the guy who fought Ali had to lie on the floor to manufacture a draw. If he was so good why didn't he stand up and do his stuff?101Walterton wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 4:47pmI don’t watch any of that MMA or Café fighting but I would have thought that the speed and range of attack for Kung Fu or Karate( kicks punches etc) would strongly favour martial arts. It is all very well having the power but if you can’t get close enough or fast enough to land a punch it is no use to you.Heston wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 8:48amThis takes me back to a question I once asked on here before: Who would win in a fight between Bruce Lee and Muhammad Ali? How important are Martial Arts when they meet sheer brute force?101Walterton wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 12:38amShihan JJ Burnel has over 40 years of training in martial arts.muppet hi fi wrote: ↑25 May 2018, 10:54pmProbably. Unless Johnny Thunders happened to be hanging with the Clash that night, in which case he may well have, literally, murdered JJ. Hey - "New Yawk Citaaay!"
He first started Tae Kwondo at age 19. At 21 years of age he started Kyokushinkai under Sensei Brian Crowley. In 1978 he went to Tokyo to train at the Kyokushinkaikan in Ikebukuro.
Since 1991 he has been UK branch chief of The Shidokan.
He has taught, fought and demonstrated all over the world including Japan.
He was awarded his 6th Dan in Japan in 2005 and was awarded the title Renshi in 2012.
In 2014 he was promoted to Nanadan, 7th Dan.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
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Never seen Bruce Lee laying on the floor!!Heston wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 6:10pmBut the guy who fought Ali had to lie on the floor to manufacture a draw. If he was so good why didn't he stand up and do his stuff?101Walterton wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 4:47pmI don’t watch any of that MMA or Café fighting but I would have thought that the speed and range of attack for Kung Fu or Karate( kicks punches etc) would strongly favour martial arts. It is all very well having the power but if you can’t get close enough or fast enough to land a punch it is no use to you.Heston wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 8:48amThis takes me back to a question I once asked on here before: Who would win in a fight between Bruce Lee and Muhammad Ali? How important are Martial Arts when they meet sheer brute force?101Walterton wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 12:38amShihan JJ Burnel has over 40 years of training in martial arts.muppet hi fi wrote: ↑25 May 2018, 10:54pm
Probably. Unless Johnny Thunders happened to be hanging with the Clash that night, in which case he may well have, literally, murdered JJ. Hey - "New Yawk Citaaay!"
He first started Tae Kwondo at age 19. At 21 years of age he started Kyokushinkai under Sensei Brian Crowley. In 1978 he went to Tokyo to train at the Kyokushinkaikan in Ikebukuro.
Since 1991 he has been UK branch chief of The Shidokan.
He has taught, fought and demonstrated all over the world including Japan.
He was awarded his 6th Dan in Japan in 2005 and was awarded the title Renshi in 2012.
In 2014 he was promoted to Nanadan, 7th Dan.
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Ali would have whupped his skinny arse.101Walterton wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 6:49pmNever seen Bruce Lee laying on the floor!!Heston wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 6:10pmBut the guy who fought Ali had to lie on the floor to manufacture a draw. If he was so good why didn't he stand up and do his stuff?101Walterton wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 4:47pmI don’t watch any of that MMA or Café fighting but I would have thought that the speed and range of attack for Kung Fu or Karate( kicks punches etc) would strongly favour martial arts. It is all very well having the power but if you can’t get close enough or fast enough to land a punch it is no use to you.Heston wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 8:48amThis takes me back to a question I once asked on here before: Who would win in a fight between Bruce Lee and Muhammad Ali? How important are Martial Arts when they meet sheer brute force?101Walterton wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 12:38am
Shihan JJ Burnel has over 40 years of training in martial arts.
He first started Tae Kwondo at age 19. At 21 years of age he started Kyokushinkai under Sensei Brian Crowley. In 1978 he went to Tokyo to train at the Kyokushinkaikan in Ikebukuro.
Since 1991 he has been UK branch chief of The Shidokan.
He has taught, fought and demonstrated all over the world including Japan.
He was awarded his 6th Dan in Japan in 2005 and was awarded the title Renshi in 2012.
In 2014 he was promoted to Nanadan, 7th Dan.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
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Haha along with Evil Knievel and The Fonz all superheroes in my eyes.Heston wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 7:06pmAli would have whupped his skinny arse.101Walterton wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 6:49pmNever seen Bruce Lee laying on the floor!!Heston wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 6:10pmBut the guy who fought Ali had to lie on the floor to manufacture a draw. If he was so good why didn't he stand up and do his stuff?101Walterton wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 4:47pmI don’t watch any of that MMA or Café fighting but I would have thought that the speed and range of attack for Kung Fu or Karate( kicks punches etc) would strongly favour martial arts. It is all very well having the power but if you can’t get close enough or fast enough to land a punch it is no use to you.
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No punch ups necessary: Hugh calls on his friends from the skies, The Meninblack, to take his rivals away for good. Or vaporize 'em and leave 'em in the dust -- figuratively, and literally, in this case.Paul's face-off with JJ at Dingwalls has been well documented.
So, who do we fancy in a 4-on-4 free-for-all circa 1978 ?
Assuming Joe & Hugh would be well matched, I reckon the crucial factor is whether Paul could hold off JJ long enough for Mick & Topper to take out Jet Black & Dave Greenfield.
Does Topper have actual fighting skills ? Would the Stranglers' grown-up toughness see them through ?
What do we reckon ?
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Re: Stranglers being a bandwagon band. I think the Adicts fit that description more.
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chuck, quit while you're behind.Chuck Mangione wrote: ↑31 Jul 2018, 12:53pmRe: Stranglers being a bandwagon band. I think the Adicts fit that description more.
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NEVER!Flex wrote: ↑31 Jul 2018, 1:17pmchuck, quit while you're behind.Chuck Mangione wrote: ↑31 Jul 2018, 12:53pmRe: Stranglers being a bandwagon band. I think the Adicts fit that description more.
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Yeah. Let’s just all agree to stop talking. Except me. And Flex. And anyone not Chuck.Flex wrote: ↑31 Jul 2018, 1:17pmchuck, quit while you're behind.Chuck Mangione wrote: ↑31 Jul 2018, 12:53pmRe: Stranglers being a bandwagon band. I think the Adicts fit that description more.
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anyways, the adicts put out some tasty records imho
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I don't give a fuck about a bandwagon jumper. A scene means jack shit and the individual bands live only on their own merits.
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I admit, I have a friend who just roots for whatever sports team is doing well from any of the geographic areas she's ever lived in and it kinda annoys me. Bandwagon jumper.Silent Majority wrote: ↑31 Jul 2018, 2:00pmI don't give a fuck about a bandwagon jumper. A scene means jack shit and the individual bands live only on their own merits.
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And for the uninitiated, Kyokushin is heavy duty, full-contact Karate, not standing around punching and kicking the air trying to look fancy like all/most other "Martial" arts styles.101Walterton wrote: ↑26 May 2018, 12:38am
Shihan JJ Burnel has over 40 years of training in martial arts.
He first started Tae Kwondo at age 19. At 21 years of age he started Kyokushinkai under Sensei Brian Crowley. In 1978 he went to Tokyo to train at the Kyokushinkaikan in Ikebukuro.
Since 1991 he has been UK branch chief of The Shidokan.
He has taught, fought and demonstrated all over the world including Japan.
He was awarded his 6th Dan in Japan in 2005 and was awarded the title Renshi in 2012.
In 2014 he was promoted to Nanadan, 7th Dan.
JJ is a true badass. No one in their right mind would try to fight him, unless armed.
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