Clash vs Stranglers punch-up

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Re: Clash vs Stranglers punch-up

Post by Heston » 26 May 2018, 9:29am

laxman wrote:
26 May 2018, 8:58am
Heston wrote:
26 May 2018, 8:48am
101Walterton wrote:
26 May 2018, 12:38am
muppet hi fi wrote:
25 May 2018, 10:54pm
101Walterton wrote:
25 May 2018, 10:28pm
JJ alone would murder them!
Probably. Unless Johnny Thunders happened to be hanging with the Clash that night, in which case he may well have, literally, murdered JJ. Hey - "New Yawk Citaaay!"
Shihan JJ Burnel has over 40 years of training in martial arts.

He first started Tae Kwondo at age 19. At 21 years of age he started Kyokushinkai under Sensei Brian Crowley. In 1978 he went to Tokyo to train at the Kyokushinkaikan in Ikebukuro.

Since 1991 he has been UK branch chief of The Shidokan.

He has taught, fought and demonstrated all over the world including Japan.

He was awarded his 6th Dan in Japan in 2005 and was awarded the title Renshi in 2012.

In 2014 he was promoted to Nanadan, 7th Dan.
This takes me back to a question I once asked on here before: Who would win in a fight between Bruce Lee and Muhammad Ali? How important are Martial Arts when they meet sheer brute force?
Didn’t Ali fight a mixed martial arts opponent and get his legs badly damaged by all the kicks?

Edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhamma ... onio_Inoki
That sounds like it was a bit of a farce. Things would have been different in a no holds barred match.
I just polished off some Low Country shrimp & grits and a mess of collards. That's a hell of a strain on the arm.

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Re: Clash vs Stranglers punch-up

Post by 101Walterton » 26 May 2018, 4:47pm

Heston wrote:
26 May 2018, 8:48am
101Walterton wrote:
26 May 2018, 12:38am
muppet hi fi wrote:
25 May 2018, 10:54pm
101Walterton wrote:
25 May 2018, 10:28pm
JJ alone would murder them!
Probably. Unless Johnny Thunders happened to be hanging with the Clash that night, in which case he may well have, literally, murdered JJ. Hey - "New Yawk Citaaay!"
Shihan JJ Burnel has over 40 years of training in martial arts.

He first started Tae Kwondo at age 19. At 21 years of age he started Kyokushinkai under Sensei Brian Crowley. In 1978 he went to Tokyo to train at the Kyokushinkaikan in Ikebukuro.

Since 1991 he has been UK branch chief of The Shidokan.

He has taught, fought and demonstrated all over the world including Japan.

He was awarded his 6th Dan in Japan in 2005 and was awarded the title Renshi in 2012.

In 2014 he was promoted to Nanadan, 7th Dan.
This takes me back to a question I once asked on here before: Who would win in a fight between Bruce Lee and Muhammad Ali? How important are Martial Arts when they meet sheer brute force?
I don’t watch any of that MMA or Café fighting but I would have thought that the speed and range of attack for Kung Fu or Karate( kicks punches etc) would strongly favour martial arts. It is all very well having the power but if you can’t get close enough or fast enough to land a punch it is no use to you.

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Re: Clash vs Stranglers punch-up

Post by Heston » 26 May 2018, 6:10pm

101Walterton wrote:
26 May 2018, 4:47pm
Heston wrote:
26 May 2018, 8:48am
101Walterton wrote:
26 May 2018, 12:38am
muppet hi fi wrote:
25 May 2018, 10:54pm
101Walterton wrote:
25 May 2018, 10:28pm
JJ alone would murder them!
Probably. Unless Johnny Thunders happened to be hanging with the Clash that night, in which case he may well have, literally, murdered JJ. Hey - "New Yawk Citaaay!"
Shihan JJ Burnel has over 40 years of training in martial arts.

He first started Tae Kwondo at age 19. At 21 years of age he started Kyokushinkai under Sensei Brian Crowley. In 1978 he went to Tokyo to train at the Kyokushinkaikan in Ikebukuro.

Since 1991 he has been UK branch chief of The Shidokan.

He has taught, fought and demonstrated all over the world including Japan.

He was awarded his 6th Dan in Japan in 2005 and was awarded the title Renshi in 2012.

In 2014 he was promoted to Nanadan, 7th Dan.
This takes me back to a question I once asked on here before: Who would win in a fight between Bruce Lee and Muhammad Ali? How important are Martial Arts when they meet sheer brute force?
I don’t watch any of that MMA or Café fighting but I would have thought that the speed and range of attack for Kung Fu or Karate( kicks punches etc) would strongly favour martial arts. It is all very well having the power but if you can’t get close enough or fast enough to land a punch it is no use to you.
But the guy who fought Ali had to lie on the floor to manufacture a draw. If he was so good why didn't he stand up and do his stuff?
I just polished off some Low Country shrimp & grits and a mess of collards. That's a hell of a strain on the arm.

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Re: Clash vs Stranglers punch-up

Post by 101Walterton » 26 May 2018, 6:49pm

Heston wrote:
26 May 2018, 6:10pm
101Walterton wrote:
26 May 2018, 4:47pm
Heston wrote:
26 May 2018, 8:48am
101Walterton wrote:
26 May 2018, 12:38am
muppet hi fi wrote:
25 May 2018, 10:54pm

Probably. Unless Johnny Thunders happened to be hanging with the Clash that night, in which case he may well have, literally, murdered JJ. Hey - "New Yawk Citaaay!"
Shihan JJ Burnel has over 40 years of training in martial arts.

He first started Tae Kwondo at age 19. At 21 years of age he started Kyokushinkai under Sensei Brian Crowley. In 1978 he went to Tokyo to train at the Kyokushinkaikan in Ikebukuro.

Since 1991 he has been UK branch chief of The Shidokan.

He has taught, fought and demonstrated all over the world including Japan.

He was awarded his 6th Dan in Japan in 2005 and was awarded the title Renshi in 2012.

In 2014 he was promoted to Nanadan, 7th Dan.
This takes me back to a question I once asked on here before: Who would win in a fight between Bruce Lee and Muhammad Ali? How important are Martial Arts when they meet sheer brute force?
I don’t watch any of that MMA or Café fighting but I would have thought that the speed and range of attack for Kung Fu or Karate( kicks punches etc) would strongly favour martial arts. It is all very well having the power but if you can’t get close enough or fast enough to land a punch it is no use to you.
But the guy who fought Ali had to lie on the floor to manufacture a draw. If he was so good why didn't he stand up and do his stuff?
Never seen Bruce Lee laying on the floor!!

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Re: Clash vs Stranglers punch-up

Post by Heston » 26 May 2018, 7:06pm

101Walterton wrote:
26 May 2018, 6:49pm
Heston wrote:
26 May 2018, 6:10pm
101Walterton wrote:
26 May 2018, 4:47pm
Heston wrote:
26 May 2018, 8:48am
101Walterton wrote:
26 May 2018, 12:38am


Shihan JJ Burnel has over 40 years of training in martial arts.

He first started Tae Kwondo at age 19. At 21 years of age he started Kyokushinkai under Sensei Brian Crowley. In 1978 he went to Tokyo to train at the Kyokushinkaikan in Ikebukuro.

Since 1991 he has been UK branch chief of The Shidokan.

He has taught, fought and demonstrated all over the world including Japan.

He was awarded his 6th Dan in Japan in 2005 and was awarded the title Renshi in 2012.

In 2014 he was promoted to Nanadan, 7th Dan.
This takes me back to a question I once asked on here before: Who would win in a fight between Bruce Lee and Muhammad Ali? How important are Martial Arts when they meet sheer brute force?
I don’t watch any of that MMA or Café fighting but I would have thought that the speed and range of attack for Kung Fu or Karate( kicks punches etc) would strongly favour martial arts. It is all very well having the power but if you can’t get close enough or fast enough to land a punch it is no use to you.
But the guy who fought Ali had to lie on the floor to manufacture a draw. If he was so good why didn't he stand up and do his stuff?
Never seen Bruce Lee laying on the floor!!
Ali would have whupped his skinny arse.
I just polished off some Low Country shrimp & grits and a mess of collards. That's a hell of a strain on the arm.

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Re: Clash vs Stranglers punch-up

Post by 101Walterton » 26 May 2018, 7:41pm

Heston wrote:
26 May 2018, 7:06pm
101Walterton wrote:
26 May 2018, 6:49pm
Heston wrote:
26 May 2018, 6:10pm
101Walterton wrote:
26 May 2018, 4:47pm
Heston wrote:
26 May 2018, 8:48am


This takes me back to a question I once asked on here before: Who would win in a fight between Bruce Lee and Muhammad Ali? How important are Martial Arts when they meet sheer brute force?
I don’t watch any of that MMA or Café fighting but I would have thought that the speed and range of attack for Kung Fu or Karate( kicks punches etc) would strongly favour martial arts. It is all very well having the power but if you can’t get close enough or fast enough to land a punch it is no use to you.
But the guy who fought Ali had to lie on the floor to manufacture a draw. If he was so good why didn't he stand up and do his stuff?
Never seen Bruce Lee laying on the floor!!
Ali would have whupped his skinny arse.
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Re: Clash vs Stranglers punch-up

Post by Chairman Ralph » 29 May 2018, 1:34am

Paul's face-off with JJ at Dingwalls has been well documented.

So, who do we fancy in a 4-on-4 free-for-all circa 1978 ?

Assuming Joe & Hugh would be well matched, I reckon the crucial factor is whether Paul could hold off JJ long enough for Mick & Topper to take out Jet Black & Dave Greenfield.

Does Topper have actual fighting skills ? Would the Stranglers' grown-up toughness see them through ?

What do we reckon ?
No punch ups necessary: Hugh calls on his friends from the skies, The Meninblack, to take his rivals away for good. Or vaporize 'em and leave 'em in the dust -- figuratively, and literally, in this case. :mrgreen:

For further reference: see "Hallow To Our Men." :mrgreen:

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