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Clash II interview

Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 5:35pm
by Heston
I think this is new to me, seen one Bernie-rant by proxy and you've seen em all...


Re: Clash II interview

Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 5:40pm
by Dr. Medulla
Christ, Joe, let Vince talk. He's got ideas. Firm ideas.

Re: Clash II interview

Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 6:02pm
by muppet hi fi
Shutups, Joe.

And why's he picking on the Stones, who he much later admitted was his favourite band? Plus, when that vid was taped, the Stones hadn't played live since '82 and wouldn't play again til '89. Lots more worthy (and factually appropriate) artists in '84-'85 to pick on to make his point.

Re: Clash II interview

Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 6:36pm
by Low Down Low
muppet hi fi wrote:
16 Mar 2018, 6:02pm
Shutups, Joe.

And why's he picking on the Stones, who he much later admitted was his favourite band? Plus, when that vid was taped, the Stones hadn't played live since '82 and wouldn't play again til '89. Lots more worthy (and factually appropriate) artists in '84-'85 to pick on to make his point.
The Stones dig apart, I do think that amidst the obvious bluster there, Joe is struggling to articulate a very valid point about the proliferation of stadium rock and the video age. That was something for the band to set themselves apart, I think, but they were too messed up to achieve any sense of coherence like that.

Re: Clash II interview

Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 6:50pm
by muppet hi fi
Low Down Low wrote:
16 Mar 2018, 6:36pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
16 Mar 2018, 6:02pm
Shutups, Joe.

And why's he picking on the Stones, who he much later admitted was his favourite band? Plus, when that vid was taped, the Stones hadn't played live since '82 and wouldn't play again til '89. Lots more worthy (and factually appropriate) artists in '84-'85 to pick on to make his point.
The Stones dig apart, I do think that amidst the obvious bluster there, Joe is struggling to articulate a very valid point about the proliferation of stadium rock and the video age. That was something for the band to set themselves apart, I think, but they were too messed up to achieve any sense of coherence like that.
Oh I know, just that in those years Joe was liable to say anything (and often did), and seemed to forget his own musical roots while pretending it was 1977/Year Zero again and the fact that the real Clash had enormous success on a major label, had shot several videos, and indeed had played stadiums. Better alternatives for his views would be Queen or Elton or even Bowie himself. Joe is just full of shit in every Clash II interview I've ever seen. Plus his band sucked. :angry:

Re: Clash II interview

Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 7:27pm
by Low Down Low
muppet hi fi wrote:
16 Mar 2018, 6:50pm
Low Down Low wrote:
16 Mar 2018, 6:36pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
16 Mar 2018, 6:02pm
Shutups, Joe.

And why's he picking on the Stones, who he much later admitted was his favourite band? Plus, when that vid was taped, the Stones hadn't played live since '82 and wouldn't play again til '89. Lots more worthy (and factually appropriate) artists in '84-'85 to pick on to make his point.
The Stones dig apart, I do think that amidst the obvious bluster there, Joe is struggling to articulate a very valid point about the proliferation of stadium rock and the video age. That was something for the band to set themselves apart, I think, but they were too messed up to achieve any sense of coherence like that.
Oh I know, just that in those years Joe was liable to say anything (and often did), and seemed to forget his own musical roots while pretending it was 1977/Year Zero again and the fact that the real Clash had enormous success on a major label, had shot several videos, and indeed had played stadiums. Better alternatives for his views would be Queen or Elton or even Bowie himself. Joe is just full of shit in every Clash II interview I've ever seen. Plus his band sucked. :angry:
Yeah Joe was hard going around that time, I excuse a lot of it on the basis of tough personal circumstances. I think to be fair too it was those stadium gigs they played that helped contribute to the final, painful break-up. I do think there was some substance there, like the busking tour was gimmicky but still a good idea, just there was nobody sane and competent enough left to pull it all together.