I'm having a bit of a debate with someone on Facebook as to when they were recorded and if Vince played on them. My understanding was they're from Nov 83 and were made for the purpose of Vince learning the songs, as he joined around that time. Does anyone have a definite idea of the timeline of the demos being recorded/when Vince joined etc? Where did the Nov 83 tag originate from? Was it when CK kindly released the tapes to the board?
This fella on Facebook is also saying Vince claims to have written "Do It Now" and to have played on the demos in his book, I can't recall this at all. I lent out my copy of the book and never got it back, so I can't check.
Question about the Out of Control demos
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Question about the Out of Control demos
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Re: Question about the Out of Control demos
Yeah, the tape is from November '83 and Vince definitely isn't on it — I think it's just a regular rehearsal session, not especially made for Vince to learn from. Don't recall him him claiming to have written Do it Now/Out of Control in his book either.
The tapes came from Nick Sheppard.
The tapes came from Nick Sheppard.
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Thanks Inder, I'm pretty sure I would have remembered a momentous event like Vince writing a song.Inder wrote: ↑19 Feb 2018, 3:38pmYeah, the tape is from November '83 and Vince definitely isn't on it — I think it's just a regular rehearsal session, not especially made for Vince to learn from. Don't recall him him claiming to have written Do it Now/Out of Control in his book either.
The tapes came from Nick Sheppard.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
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He wishes he'd written something that he could call "White Riot."Heston wrote: ↑19 Feb 2018, 5:16pmThanks Inder, I'm pretty sure I would have remembered a momentous event like Vince writing a song.Inder wrote: ↑19 Feb 2018, 3:38pmYeah, the tape is from November '83 and Vince definitely isn't on it — I think it's just a regular rehearsal session, not especially made for Vince to learn from. Don't recall him him claiming to have written Do it Now/Out of Control in his book either.
The tapes came from Nick Sheppard.
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Re: Question about the Out of Control demos
I was going to rewrite "White Riot" as an actual racist song and got as far as "black people cause a lot of problems" before deciding it was best to not go any further.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑19 Feb 2018, 5:34pmHe wishes he'd written something that he could call "White Riot."Heston wrote: ↑19 Feb 2018, 5:16pmThanks Inder, I'm pretty sure I would have remembered a momentous event like Vince writing a song.Inder wrote: ↑19 Feb 2018, 3:38pmYeah, the tape is from November '83 and Vince definitely isn't on it — I think it's just a regular rehearsal session, not especially made for Vince to learn from. Don't recall him him claiming to have written Do it Now/Out of Control in his book either.
The tapes came from Nick Sheppard.
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Re: Question about the Out of Control demos
Leave that to the footnotes of the Clash story, son.matedog wrote: ↑19 Feb 2018, 8:03pmI was going to rewrite "White Riot" as an actual racist song and got as far as "black people cause a lot of problems" before deciding it was best to not go any further.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑19 Feb 2018, 5:34pmHe wishes he'd written something that he could call "White Riot."Heston wrote: ↑19 Feb 2018, 5:16pmThanks Inder, I'm pretty sure I would have remembered a momentous event like Vince writing a song.Inder wrote: ↑19 Feb 2018, 3:38pmYeah, the tape is from November '83 and Vince definitely isn't on it — I think it's just a regular rehearsal session, not especially made for Vince to learn from. Don't recall him him claiming to have written Do it Now/Out of Control in his book either.
The tapes came from Nick Sheppard.
"I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back in Whittier, they're not much bigger than two meters.'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft