Best side of Sandinista!....

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Re: Best side of Sandinista!....

Post by Flex » 06 Nov 2017, 11:45am

Sides 3 & 4 are absurdly good.

3,4,2,1,5,6
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Re: Best side of Sandinista!....

Post by Low Down Low » 06 Nov 2017, 11:50am

101Walterton wrote:
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05 Nov 2017, 11:25am
That's very true about Sides Five and Six but in another way I never really understood the harsher criticisms of S! among the music press because whatever way you spin it, there's still two albums worth of serious material there. They could have released a great double or killer single album and being likely fawned over, instead they throw in the odd duff track and get widely slaughtered for it. As I think Joe himself said or words thereof, no need to sweat it. Just skip to the tracks you like and where's the problem?
But remember it was pre shuffle / skip track back then 😀
True that!

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Re: Best side of Sandinista!....

Post by Kory » 06 Nov 2017, 1:52pm

Flex wrote:
06 Nov 2017, 11:45am
Sides 3 & 4 are absurdly good.

3,4,2,1,5,6
I was just coming to post this as my favorite order. As for first thoughts, I was firmly entrenched in adolescent punk elitism mode, so while I liked Mag7, Shitsville and Rebel Waltz were particularly baffling. I didn't try it again for about 9 months, at which point I had been listening to Combat Rock, which had primed me to go back to weirder stuff.
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Re: Best side of Sandinista!....

Post by Inder » 06 Nov 2017, 1:53pm

CK had that great cartoon in Showdown — two confused mohawked punks, "Maybe the band is called Sandinista and the album is called The Clash?"

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Re: Best side of Sandinista!....

Post by Kory » 06 Nov 2017, 2:14pm

Inder wrote:
06 Nov 2017, 1:53pm
CK had that great cartoon in Showdown — two confused mohawked punks, "Maybe the band is called Sandinista and the album is called The Clash?"
Classic!
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Absolutely. Here's another collection of words:

Table salt (spoon hinge)
Octopus (Ukraine)
St. Petersburg (arms)
Ginger beer (cauliflower)
Pat Sajak (PSak)
Lamp post (self evident)
Florida Timeshare (ditto)
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Re: Best side of Sandinista!....

Post by Low Down Low » 06 Nov 2017, 2:17pm

Kory wrote:
06 Nov 2017, 2:14pm
Inder wrote:
06 Nov 2017, 1:53pm
CK had that great cartoon in Showdown — two confused mohawked punks, "Maybe the band is called Sandinista and the album is called The Clash?"
Classic!
Excellent! I never had to face that dilemma as S! was my first taste of Clash and I was willing to gobble anything. I'd adopted them like my favourite football team, total devotion and devoid of any critical nuance.

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Re: Best side of Sandinista!....

Post by msza2 » 06 Nov 2017, 2:31pm

While we're on Sandinista, this is a nice write up (though I somewhat disagree with the writer's opinions on early Clash reggae): http://www.redwedgemagazine.com/comment ... sciousness

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Re: Best side of Sandinista!....

Post by Kory » 06 Nov 2017, 2:44pm

msza2 wrote:
06 Nov 2017, 2:31pm
While we're on Sandinista, this is a nice write up (though I somewhat disagree with the writer's opinions on early Clash reggae): http://www.redwedgemagazine.com/comment ... sciousness
A pretty funny article, because there's no way the band thought that deeply about any of it. Also, the writer forgot that Armagideon Time exists.
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Absolutely. Here's another collection of words:

Table salt (spoon hinge)
Octopus (Ukraine)
St. Petersburg (arms)
Ginger beer (cauliflower)
Pat Sajak (PSak)
Lamp post (self evident)
Florida Timeshare (ditto)
Heraclitus (EMI)
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Re: Best side of Sandinista!....

Post by msza2 » 06 Nov 2017, 2:49pm

Kory wrote:
06 Nov 2017, 2:44pm
msza2 wrote:
06 Nov 2017, 2:31pm
While we're on Sandinista, this is a nice write up (though I somewhat disagree with the writer's opinions on early Clash reggae): http://www.redwedgemagazine.com/comment ... sciousness
A pretty funny article, because there's no way the band thought that deeply about any of it. Also, the writer forgot that Armagideon Time exists.
Ha, true. He definitely overreaches with his thesis but he makes me want to put the record on, which is some sort of achievement, right?

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Re: Best side of Sandinista!....

Post by Kory » 06 Nov 2017, 2:52pm

msza2 wrote:
06 Nov 2017, 2:49pm
Kory wrote:
06 Nov 2017, 2:44pm
msza2 wrote:
06 Nov 2017, 2:31pm
While we're on Sandinista, this is a nice write up (though I somewhat disagree with the writer's opinions on early Clash reggae): http://www.redwedgemagazine.com/comment ... sciousness
A pretty funny article, because there's no way the band thought that deeply about any of it. Also, the writer forgot that Armagideon Time exists.
Ha, true. He definitely overreaches with his thesis but he makes me want to put the record on, which is some sort of achievement, right?
Yup, anything that inspires further listening is a triumph, I think. It's at least a different lens to look at the album through which might bring greater personal understanding, so why not write more about it?
Inder:
Absolutely. Here's another collection of words:

Table salt (spoon hinge)
Octopus (Ukraine)
St. Petersburg (arms)
Ginger beer (cauliflower)
Pat Sajak (PSak)
Lamp post (self evident)
Florida Timeshare (ditto)
Heraclitus (EMI)
Developers (Developers Developers)
Boogie With Your Children

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Re: Best side of Sandinista!....

Post by Marky Dread » 09 Nov 2017, 8:11pm

I love it all. Like any record by anybody you can take or leave what you are in the mood for. As fot the pre CD days without skipping and programing I bet there are very few who bought vinyl that didn't put their faves on a cassette.
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Re: Best side of Sandinista!....

Post by Low Down Low » 09 Nov 2017, 9:18pm

Marky Dread wrote:
09 Nov 2017, 8:11pm
I love it all. Like any record by anybody you can take or leave what you are in the mood for. As fot the pre CD days without skipping and programing I bet there are very few who bought vinyl that didn't put their faves on a cassette.
Didn't the band have some beef with the record company over stores offering to tape selected songs from S! at a reduced price? Something to do with the Home Taping Is Killing Music label or something like that, sketchy on the details.

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Re: Best side of Sandinista!....

Post by Marky Dread » 09 Nov 2017, 9:21pm

Low Down Low wrote:
09 Nov 2017, 9:18pm
Marky Dread wrote:
09 Nov 2017, 8:11pm
I love it all. Like any record by anybody you can take or leave what you are in the mood for. As fot the pre CD days without skipping and programing I bet there are very few who bought vinyl that didn't put their faves on a cassette.
Didn't the band have some beef with the record company over stores offering to tape selected songs from S! at a reduced price? Something to do with the Home Taping Is Killing Music label or something like that, sketchy on the details.
That sounds like something they would advocate.
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Re: Best side of Sandinista!....

Post by Low Down Low » 09 Nov 2017, 9:31pm

Marky Dread wrote:
09 Nov 2017, 9:21pm
Low Down Low wrote:
09 Nov 2017, 9:18pm
Marky Dread wrote:
09 Nov 2017, 8:11pm
I love it all. Like any record by anybody you can take or leave what you are in the mood for. As fot the pre CD days without skipping and programing I bet there are very few who bought vinyl that didn't put their faves on a cassette.
Didn't the band have some beef with the record company over stores offering to tape selected songs from S! at a reduced price? Something to do with the Home Taping Is Killing Music label or something like that, sketchy on the details.
That sounds like something they would advocate.
Yes, I should point out it was the record co what was agin it. I think its covered in LGIT but dont have a copy to hand right now.

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Re: Best side of Sandinista!....

Post by Heston » 10 Nov 2017, 4:55am

Low Down Low wrote:
09 Nov 2017, 9:31pm
Marky Dread wrote:
09 Nov 2017, 9:21pm
Low Down Low wrote:
09 Nov 2017, 9:18pm
Marky Dread wrote:
09 Nov 2017, 8:11pm
I love it all. Like any record by anybody you can take or leave what you are in the mood for. As fot the pre CD days without skipping and programing I bet there are very few who bought vinyl that didn't put their faves on a cassette.
Didn't the band have some beef with the record company over stores offering to tape selected songs from S! at a reduced price? Something to do with the Home Taping Is Killing Music label or something like that, sketchy on the details.
That sounds like something they would advocate.
Yes, I should point out it was the record co what was agin it. I think its covered in LGIT but dont have a copy to hand right now.
That was for Combat Rock. They recalled some copies and had it removed, saying, "We don't care how many people tape our music."
So what does Marconi playing the mamba mean? "Marconi" is referring to the radio itself. It plays a deadly snake. The snake - the mamba - is slithering from the speakers. Ready to kill greedy corporations. Ready to free the world of all that is evil, and to leave behind only the youthful idealism encompassed by the tenets of rock and roll.

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