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Re: Best Remote Control

Posted: 01 Nov 2017, 7:21pm
by Silent Majority
I was working up an acoustic version of this the other day, it's such a great piece of songwriting.

Re: Best Remote Control

Posted: 01 Nov 2017, 7:29pm
by Heston
Silent Majority wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 7:21pm
I was working up an acoustic version of this the other day, it's such a great piece of songwriting.
Superb songwriting. I think the rest of the band took the piss when Mick presented it to them, calling it a mini-rock opera or something. That was the kind of the stuff that set the Clash apart for me. It only seems to get bad press because of the single release debacle, it should have been a staple of their gigs for a lot longer.

Re: Best Remote Control

Posted: 01 Nov 2017, 7:37pm
by Silent Majority
Heston wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 7:29pm
Silent Majority wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 7:21pm
I was working up an acoustic version of this the other day, it's such a great piece of songwriting.
Superb songwriting. I think the rest of the band took the piss when Mick presented it to them, calling it a mini-rock opera or something. That was the kind of the stuff that set the Clash apart for me. It only seems to get bad press because of the single release debacle, it should have been a staple of their gigs for a lot longer.
Really, the structure of the worst of their post-'79 stuff could have used some more gear changes like the ones that drive Remote Control.

Re: Best Remote Control

Posted: 01 Nov 2017, 11:26pm
by Wolter
Silent Majority wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 7:37pm
Heston wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 7:29pm
Silent Majority wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 7:21pm
I was working up an acoustic version of this the other day, it's such a great piece of songwriting.
Superb songwriting. I think the rest of the band took the piss when Mick presented it to them, calling it a mini-rock opera or something. That was the kind of the stuff that set the Clash apart for me. It only seems to get bad press because of the single release debacle, it should have been a staple of their gigs for a lot longer.
Really, the structure of the worst of their post-'79 stuff could have used some more gear changes like the ones that drive Remote Control.
It is definitely unfairly maligned because of the single release. It's literally the only song from the S/T that isn't on their first box set in any form.

Re: Best Remote Control

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 3:44pm
by Chuck Mangione
Terry's drumming on the original is very combative and good. One can easily mistake it for Topper when listening to it.

Re: Best Remote Control

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 3:45pm
by Inder
Completely forgot this existed.

I take back what I said in the other thread — this is a hidden gem in LC25. 😎

Re: Best Remote Control

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 3:48pm
by Chuck Mangione
The original also has the handclapping in it which adds to the overall realness of the song.

Re: Best Remote Control

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 3:54pm
by Silent Majority
What is this inauthentic trash? demands Chuck, confronted with a song devoid of handclaps.

Re: Best Remote Control

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 3:57pm
by Inder
Silent Majority wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 3:54pm
What is this inauthentic trash? demands Chuck, confronted with a song devoid of handclaps.
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Re: Best Remote Control

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 4:27pm
by Chuck Mangione
:lol:

Re: Best Remote Control

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 5:19pm
by Marky Dread
Not really a fair comparison. Two very different settings played by different sounding bands. They are both great but I will take the S/T single version. It's excellent that the band still had a real fondness for the song.

Here's another point to discuss. The band didn't want CBS to release the single because they had already released "White Riot" however the single version of WR is not on the album when it came from the same sessions and maybe it should've been. Perhaps the Beaconsfield version should've been the single as a lot of folks prefer that. I prefer the single with the sirens.

So back to "Remote Control" CBS obviously chose that track as the most radio friendly song on the album. My question is if not RC then what other track do you think would've made a good single. Remember the record company would've probably been unhappy with references to drugs and swearing.

Re: Best Remote Control

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 5:45pm
by Flex
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 5:19pm
So back to "Remote Control" CBS obviously chose that track as the most radio friendly song on the album. My question is if not RC then what other track do you think would've made a good single. Remember the record company would've probably been unhappy with references to drugs and swearing.
I like RC as a single, tho London's Burning probably would have been a good 'un, I think. Maybe Career Opportunities.

Re: Best Remote Control

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 5:53pm
by Marky Dread
Flex wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 5:45pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 5:19pm
So back to "Remote Control" CBS obviously chose that track as the most radio friendly song on the album. My question is if not RC then what other track do you think would've made a good single. Remember the record company would've probably been unhappy with references to drugs and swearing.
I like RC as a single, tho London's Burning probably would have been a good 'un, I think. Maybe Career Opportunities.
Yep agree on all of those Flex. When RC was released I used to play it more than WR and that was a lot. LB was used as a B-side from Beaconsfield of course on the clip of RC. I think it would've made a great single. 1977 should've been on the album.

Re: Best Remote Control

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 6:05pm
by Silent Majority
Drug reference aside, I'm So Bored With The USA would have been a storming single.

Re: Best Remote Control

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 6:25pm
by Marky Dread
Silent Majority wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 6:05pm
Drug reference aside, I'm So Bored With The USA would have been a storming single.
Don't think that would have got any radio play. Now as far as a punk band were concerned they may not of cared. But no way CBS would've released that at the time. I expect Starsky & Hutch and Kojak were probably CBS backed Tv programs.