Clashing again

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Re: Clashing again

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Flex wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 6:22pm
Their greatest album, a good comp, and some filler.

The perfect Clash experience. :shifty:
He got GEER, not LC. GEER is the one with the two great tracks and the rest that are underdeveloped and rushed.

Yeah, sometimes I'll go long stretches without listening. Often a debate/convo around here will inspire me to listen to an album or boot.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Heston wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 7:35pm
The Clash are now engrained in my DNA. Never tire of them.
Pretty much sums me up, too! :)
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matedog wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 10:06am
GEER is the one with the two great tracks and the rest that are underdeveloped and rushed.
You and I will never be in more agreement than on GEER. :cool:
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 10:52am
matedog wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 10:06am
GEER is the one with the two great tracks and the rest that are underdeveloped and rushed.
You and I will never be in more agreement than on GEER. :cool:
That and an obscure lesbian folk/Americana singer.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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eumaas wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 8:45am
Flex wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 6:22pm
Their greatest album, a good comp, and some filler.

The perfect Clash experience. :shifty:
I considered getting London Calling, but the anniversary edition with the demos (which I have never listened to!) is OOP. And anyway I think I have heard LC enough. The title track has become oversaturated in film/TV.

I would rather a good singles/B-sides comp than the US s/t. I think UK is a good album but not the best of '77.

I never bought the singles box. Is it worth it? Pricey.
The demos are OK, no great shakes or hidden gems imo. Cool to listen to for the first time, though.

The Sound System Extras discs are an excellent career-spanning odds and sods type thing. I think they basically replace SBMC and add some other stuff.

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Inder wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 10:55am
eumaas wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 8:45am
Flex wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 6:22pm
Their greatest album, a good comp, and some filler.

The perfect Clash experience. :shifty:
I considered getting London Calling, but the anniversary edition with the demos (which I have never listened to!) is OOP. And anyway I think I have heard LC enough. The title track has become oversaturated in film/TV.

I would rather a good singles/B-sides comp than the US s/t. I think UK is a good album but not the best of '77.

I never bought the singles box. Is it worth it? Pricey.
The demos are OK, no great shakes or hidden gems imo. Cool to listen to for the first time, though.

The Sound System Extras discs are an excellent career-spanning odds and sods type thing. I think they basically replace SBMC and add some other stuff.
Man, I wasn't even aware of Sound System. Thanks for the info.
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eumaas wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 11:04am
Inder wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 10:55am
eumaas wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 8:45am
Flex wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 6:22pm
Their greatest album, a good comp, and some filler.

The perfect Clash experience. :shifty:
I considered getting London Calling, but the anniversary edition with the demos (which I have never listened to!) is OOP. And anyway I think I have heard LC enough. The title track has become oversaturated in film/TV.

I would rather a good singles/B-sides comp than the US s/t. I think UK is a good album but not the best of '77.

I never bought the singles box. Is it worth it? Pricey.
The demos are OK, no great shakes or hidden gems imo. Cool to listen to for the first time, though.

The Sound System Extras discs are an excellent career-spanning odds and sods type thing. I think they basically replace SBMC and add some other stuff.
Man, I wasn't even aware of Sound System. Thanks for the info.
Sound System is such an improvement in sound quality that it outright replaces the albums for me.

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matedog wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 10:54am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 10:52am
matedog wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 10:06am
GEER is the one with the two great tracks and the rest that are underdeveloped and rushed.
You and I will never be in more agreement than on GEER. :cool:
That and an obscure lesbian folk/Americana singer.
Is she lesbian? I had no idea.
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Rat Patrol wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 11:24am
Sound System is such an improvement in sound quality that it outright replaces the albums for me.
Ditto. The remastering work was top-notch.
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Inder wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 10:55am
eumaas wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 8:45am
Flex wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 6:22pm
Their greatest album, a good comp, and some filler.

The perfect Clash experience. :shifty:
I considered getting London Calling, but the anniversary edition with the demos (which I have never listened to!) is OOP. And anyway I think I have heard LC enough. The title track has become oversaturated in film/TV.

I would rather a good singles/B-sides comp than the US s/t. I think UK is a good album but not the best of '77.

I never bought the singles box. Is it worth it? Pricey.
The demos are OK, no great shakes or hidden gems imo. Cool to listen to for the first time, though.

The Sound System Extras discs are an excellent career-spanning odds and sods type thing. I think they basically replace SBMC and add some other stuff.
It's got the only tolerable listen of Lover's Rock, the instrumental Guns of Brixton is one of the spookiest things they've ever done, and I'm convinced from Remote Control 2 that s/t U.S. should've been done as a straight into-the-can 1979 re-record of s/t U.K...Topper-fied.

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alright fuck it, just ordered it. I see it was released in 2013, which kinda made it urgent for me--not sure how long it'll be out there. Glad I have a credit card--damned expensive.
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eumaas wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 11:35am
alright fuck it, just ordered it. I see it was released in 2013, which kinda made it urgent for me--not sure how long it'll be out there. Glad I have a credit card--damned expensive.
You won't regret it. Well worth the expense.
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Sound System is mainly worth it for the remastering of Sandinista, an incredible job. I still maintain Marky's S/T remaster is the best version of the first album.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Re: Clashing again

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Rat Patrol wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 11:30am
Inder wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 10:55am
eumaas wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 8:45am
Flex wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 6:22pm
Their greatest album, a good comp, and some filler.

The perfect Clash experience. :shifty:
I considered getting London Calling, but the anniversary edition with the demos (which I have never listened to!) is OOP. And anyway I think I have heard LC enough. The title track has become oversaturated in film/TV.

I would rather a good singles/B-sides comp than the US s/t. I think UK is a good album but not the best of '77.

I never bought the singles box. Is it worth it? Pricey.
The demos are OK, no great shakes or hidden gems imo. Cool to listen to for the first time, though.

The Sound System Extras discs are an excellent career-spanning odds and sods type thing. I think they basically replace SBMC and add some other stuff.
It's got the only tolerable listen of Lover's Rock, the instrumental Guns of Brixton is one of the spookiest things they've ever done, and I'm convinced from Remote Control 2 that s/t U.S. should've been done as a straight into-the-can 1979 re-record of s/t U.K...Topper-fied.
Never got the love for that version of Remote Control. Just sounds like a half-arsed run through to me, the debut album version is just fine.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Just noticed that it doesn't have Justice Tonight/Kick It Over, which I always thought was their finest dub. So I guess having SBMC is still good.
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