For a handful of tracks - but I echo everyone else - Sound System is worth the price. The sound is fantastic.
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I like Topper over Terry and Joe's non-dopey 77 voice. Sound quality is a bit rough though, so it doesn't replace s/t for me.Heston wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 11:51amNever got the love for that version of Remote Control. Just sounds like a half-arsed run through to me, the debut album version is just fine.Rat Patrol wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 11:30amIt's got the only tolerable listen of Lover's Rock, the instrumental Guns of Brixton is one of the spookiest things they've ever done, and I'm convinced from Remote Control 2 that s/t U.S. should've been done as a straight into-the-can 1979 re-record of s/t U.K...Topper-fied.Inder wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 10:55amThe demos are OK, no great shakes or hidden gems imo. Cool to listen to for the first time, though.eumaas wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 8:45amI considered getting London Calling, but the anniversary edition with the demos (which I have never listened to!) is OOP. And anyway I think I have heard LC enough. The title track has become oversaturated in film/TV.
I would rather a good singles/B-sides comp than the US s/t. I think UK is a good album but not the best of '77.
I never bought the singles box. Is it worth it? Pricey.
The Sound System Extras discs are an excellent career-spanning odds and sods type thing. I think they basically replace SBMC and add some other stuff.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Also, Heart and Mind is a gem for me. Particularly with the Keys to Your Heart outro.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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DCT may have lost its luster, but we still have Hoyston's fractal wrongness to concentrate our hate.Heston wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 11:51amNever got the love for that version of Remote Control. Just sounds like a half-arsed run through to me, the debut album version is just fine.Rat Patrol wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 11:30amIt's got the only tolerable listen of Lover's Rock, the instrumental Guns of Brixton is one of the spookiest things they've ever done, and I'm convinced from Remote Control 2 that s/t U.S. should've been done as a straight into-the-can 1979 re-record of s/t U.K...Topper-fied.Inder wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 10:55amThe demos are OK, no great shakes or hidden gems imo. Cool to listen to for the first time, though.eumaas wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 8:45amI considered getting London Calling, but the anniversary edition with the demos (which I have never listened to!) is OOP. And anyway I think I have heard LC enough. The title track has become oversaturated in film/TV.
I would rather a good singles/B-sides comp than the US s/t. I think UK is a good album but not the best of '77.
I never bought the singles box. Is it worth it? Pricey.
The Sound System Extras discs are an excellent career-spanning odds and sods type thing. I think they basically replace SBMC and add some other stuff.
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Well I might just have to take this one to the poll booth.Rat Patrol wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 12:40pmDCT may have lost its luster, but we still have Hoyston's fractal wrongness to concentrate our hate.Heston wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 11:51amNever got the love for that version of Remote Control. Just sounds like a half-arsed run through to me, the debut album version is just fine.Rat Patrol wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 11:30amIt's got the only tolerable listen of Lover's Rock, the instrumental Guns of Brixton is one of the spookiest things they've ever done, and I'm convinced from Remote Control 2 that s/t U.S. should've been done as a straight into-the-can 1979 re-record of s/t U.K...Topper-fied.Inder wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 10:55amThe demos are OK, no great shakes or hidden gems imo. Cool to listen to for the first time, though.eumaas wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 8:45am
I considered getting London Calling, but the anniversary edition with the demos (which I have never listened to!) is OOP. And anyway I think I have heard LC enough. The title track has become oversaturated in film/TV.
I would rather a good singles/B-sides comp than the US s/t. I think UK is a good album but not the best of '77.
I never bought the singles box. Is it worth it? Pricey.
The Sound System Extras discs are an excellent career-spanning odds and sods type thing. I think they basically replace SBMC and add some other stuff.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
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The Clash are so ingrained in my DNA that when I am out and about if a Clash song comes on in a bar etc.. I look around to see who put it on presuming that it is for me.
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Won't play on old CD players though.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 11:25amDitto. The remastering work was top-notch.Rat Patrol wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 11:24amSound System is such an improvement in sound quality that it outright replaces the albums for me.
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I went the iTunes route. I don't own a whole lotta cd's these days—usually only Wire and Swans, because I buy directly from the band.Kory wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 2:52pmWon't play on old CD players though.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 11:25amDitto. The remastering work was top-notch.Rat Patrol wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 11:24amSound System is such an improvement in sound quality that it outright replaces the albums for me.
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Does iTunes offer WAV, or just MP3?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:17pmI went the iTunes route. I don't own a whole lotta cd's these days—usually only Wire and Swans, because I buy directly from the band.Kory wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 2:52pmWon't play on old CD players though.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 11:25amDitto. The remastering work was top-notch.Rat Patrol wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 11:24amSound System is such an improvement in sound quality that it outright replaces the albums for me.
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320 AACs only, I think. Apple does have its own lossless format, but I don't think I've ever seen it as an option from the store. I assume it's only for ripping your own discs and is appealing because iPods, etc can play them.Kory wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:47pmDoes iTunes offer WAV, or just MP3?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 4:17pmI went the iTunes route. I don't own a whole lotta cd's these days—usually only Wire and Swans, because I buy directly from the band.Kory wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 2:52pmWon't play on old CD players though.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 11:25amDitto. The remastering work was top-notch.Rat Patrol wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 11:24amSound System is such an improvement in sound quality that it outright replaces the albums for me.
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I'm no fan of Heart and Mind. Glad it's out, absolutely unnecessary. There's nothing there.
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Yeah, it's almost like an outtake of an outtake when you consider how much it sounds like One Emotion.Silent Majority wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 7:15pmI'm no fan of Heart and Mind. Glad it's out, absolutely unnecessary. There's nothing there.
The Vanilla Tapes are something I revisit very rarely, they are just too rough and sketchy.
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I hope this doesn't upset anyone too much (er....dr medulla), but you can get Sound System - in a range of high res formats like FLAC or WAV - for £12.49 at junodownload.com.
https://www.junodownload.com/search/?q% ... ormat=aiff
I know very little about this website but it seems to be aimed at DJs/mixers cos it lists tracks with a BPM count. Check out those Clash tempos, folks, if you like that sort of thing. Fastest seems to be IFTL Live at the Lyceum at 159 BPM, and the slowest is Stop The World at 51 BPM
Although I don't think they've got the info quite right - they have Clashabilly toe-tapper Know Your Rights as one of the slowest tracks at 55 BPM... and One More Time = 66 BPM, but One More Dub = 133 BPM?!
https://www.junodownload.com/search/?q% ... ormat=aiff
I know very little about this website but it seems to be aimed at DJs/mixers cos it lists tracks with a BPM count. Check out those Clash tempos, folks, if you like that sort of thing. Fastest seems to be IFTL Live at the Lyceum at 159 BPM, and the slowest is Stop The World at 51 BPM
Although I don't think they've got the info quite right - they have Clashabilly toe-tapper Know Your Rights as one of the slowest tracks at 55 BPM... and One More Time = 66 BPM, but One More Dub = 133 BPM?!
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I don't get out and about too much these days, but I hear what you're saying, Wally. When a Clash tune shows on the telly or in the pub or wherever I always find myself checking the faces and body language of those around me. Their stuff still seems so contemporary and, dare I say it - relevant.101Walterton wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 2:21pmThe Clash are so ingrained in my DNA that when I am out and about if a Clash song comes on in a bar etc.. I look around to see who put it on presuming that it is for me.
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