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Re: Clash Songs Ranked

Post by muppet hi fi » 14 Oct 2017, 6:33pm

Marky Dread wrote:
14 Oct 2017, 5:05am
101Walterton wrote:
12 Oct 2017, 10:04pm
I can't remember the order but from memory top 3 were Complete Control, White Man and Capital Radio 2??
The top 3 should always be.

Mensforth
Confusion
a remix of Mensforth/Confusion.
And I assume this will be forthcoming, Mr. Dread? :mrgreen:

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Re: Clash Songs Ranked

Post by Marky Dread » 14 Oct 2017, 7:12pm

muppet hi fi wrote:
14 Oct 2017, 6:33pm
Marky Dread wrote:
14 Oct 2017, 5:05am
101Walterton wrote:
12 Oct 2017, 10:04pm
I can't remember the order but from memory top 3 were Complete Control, White Man and Capital Radio 2??
The top 3 should always be.

Mensforth
Confusion
a remix of Mensforth/Confusion.
And I assume this will be forthcoming, Mr. Dread? :mrgreen:
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Re: Clash Songs Ranked

Post by muppet hi fi » 14 Oct 2017, 7:21pm

Marky Dread wrote:
14 Oct 2017, 7:12pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
14 Oct 2017, 6:33pm
Marky Dread wrote:
14 Oct 2017, 5:05am
101Walterton wrote:
12 Oct 2017, 10:04pm
I can't remember the order but from memory top 3 were Complete Control, White Man and Capital Radio 2??
The top 3 should always be.

Mensforth
Confusion
a remix of Mensforth/Confusion.
And I assume this will be forthcoming, Mr. Dread? :mrgreen:
esrever nI.
Hmmm? Is that a confirmation? Just make sure to use the original b-side "Cool Confusion" mix and your own reverse-mix "Mensforth Hill". Then you'll be cooking with gas ;)

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Re: Clash Songs Ranked

Post by Marky Dread » 15 Oct 2017, 4:10am

muppet hi fi wrote:
14 Oct 2017, 7:21pm
Marky Dread wrote:
14 Oct 2017, 7:12pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
14 Oct 2017, 6:33pm
Marky Dread wrote:
14 Oct 2017, 5:05am
101Walterton wrote:
12 Oct 2017, 10:04pm
I can't remember the order but from memory top 3 were Complete Control, White Man and Capital Radio 2??
The top 3 should always be.

Mensforth
Confusion
a remix of Mensforth/Confusion.
And I assume this will be forthcoming, Mr. Dread? :mrgreen:
esrever nI.
Hmmm? Is that a confirmation? Just make sure to use the original b-side "Cool Confusion" mix and your own reverse-mix "Mensforth Hill". Then you'll be cooking with gas ;)
I might mix in some young children singing Career Opportunities for good measures.
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Re: Clash Songs Ranked

Post by coffeepotman » 15 Oct 2017, 6:15am

Now believe it or not, that is something I could get into, I might give it a crack my self. I already have the forward/backward Mensforth, just need to add confusion, but will have to make it weird

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Re: Clash Songs Ranked

Post by Marky Dread » 15 Oct 2017, 9:23am

coffeepotman wrote:
15 Oct 2017, 6:15am
Now believe it or not, that is something I could get into, I might give it a crack my self. I already have the forward/backward Mensforth, just need to add confusion, but will have to make it weird
The weirder the better. :approve:
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Re: Clash Songs Ranked

Post by muppet hi fi » 16 Oct 2017, 10:24pm

Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2017, 9:23am
coffeepotman wrote:
15 Oct 2017, 6:15am
Now believe it or not, that is something I could get into, I might give it a crack my self. I already have the forward/backward Mensforth, just need to add confusion, but will have to make it weird
The weirder the better. :approve:
Oh yeah. But it'll still have nothing on CtC :scared:

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Re: Clash Songs Ranked

Post by msza2 » 19 Oct 2017, 12:36pm

I get that it's just opinions and all, but I'm trying to wrap my head around his bashing of the S! production on many of my favorite Clash songs, while describing Hitsville as having "a spectacular, spacious mix, with any number of delightful sonic touches that repay many listenings." :huh:

Anyway:

White Man
Cap Radio II
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Re: Clash Songs Ranked

Post by Flex » 19 Oct 2017, 1:06pm

Other than Hitsville U.K. (quality of the song aside, you should probably fill the top of your list with songs that are played and sung by the band you're doing a list for), the top 10 or so are all pretty defensible, even if I'd quibble a little here and there. the obvious songs are there, and the deep cuts are interesting enough selections that they don't come off as contrarian-for-contrarian's-sake (again, other than Hitsville). The bottom of the list is dumber, mostly due to being fueled by an obvious anti-CtC bias.

Anyways, The Clash had a lot of great songs.
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Re: Clash Songs Ranked

Post by matedog » 19 Oct 2017, 2:00pm

I'm not a lyrics guy, but isn't Hitsville especially dumb because it's The Clash praising indie labels...while being signed to CBS?
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Re: Clash Songs Ranked

Post by Dr. Medulla » 19 Oct 2017, 2:08pm

matedog wrote:
19 Oct 2017, 2:00pm
I'm not a lyrics guy, but isn't Hitsville especially dumb because it's The Clash praising indie labels...while being signed to CBS?
I hope you're not stumbling over a contradiction between the band's rhetoric and its lived reality.
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Re: Clash Songs Ranked

Post by matedog » 19 Oct 2017, 2:18pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
19 Oct 2017, 2:08pm
matedog wrote:
19 Oct 2017, 2:00pm
I'm not a lyrics guy, but isn't Hitsville especially dumb because it's The Clash praising indie labels...while being signed to CBS?
I hope you're not stumbling over a contradiction between the band's rhetoric and its lived reality.
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Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Re: Clash Songs Ranked

Post by Marky Dread » 19 Oct 2017, 2:24pm

matedog wrote:
19 Oct 2017, 2:00pm
I'm not a lyrics guy, but isn't Hitsville especially dumb because it's The Clash praising indie labels...while being signed to CBS?
That is the whole point of the song. The fact that a band who have made it big time on a big label can acknowledge and appreciate smaller bands whose only way in is through the smaler outlets.
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Re: Clash Songs Ranked

Post by matedog » 19 Oct 2017, 3:04pm

Marky Dread wrote:
19 Oct 2017, 2:24pm
matedog wrote:
19 Oct 2017, 2:00pm
I'm not a lyrics guy, but isn't Hitsville especially dumb because it's The Clash praising indie labels...while being signed to CBS?
That is the whole point of the song. The fact that a band who have made it big time on a big label can acknowledge and appreciate smaller bands whose only way in is through the smaler outlets.
It just comes across hypocritical. Why praise bands that stick with indie labels if you yourself chose not to?
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Re: Clash Songs Ranked

Post by Silent Majority » 19 Oct 2017, 3:10pm

matedog wrote:
19 Oct 2017, 3:04pm
Marky Dread wrote:
19 Oct 2017, 2:24pm
matedog wrote:
19 Oct 2017, 2:00pm
I'm not a lyrics guy, but isn't Hitsville especially dumb because it's The Clash praising indie labels...while being signed to CBS?
That is the whole point of the song. The fact that a band who have made it big time on a big label can acknowledge and appreciate smaller bands whose only way in is through the smaler outlets.
It just comes across hypocritical. Why praise bands that stick with indie labels if you yourself chose not to?
I think the celebration of the lyrics is tonally right and I think they carry it off. DIY is Strummerpunk ideology at its best, even if Strummer is on a mid-sized label.
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