Re: The Sacking of Mick Jones
Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 10:56am
What about when one by one, three members of Killing Joke left, leaving Youth as the only one still in the band, then they reformed the following week without him?
Classic story! Youth eventually made it back into KJ. I wonder if Mick would have eventually rejoined the Clash if they had managed to stick around long enough?
When Mick and Joe had made up didn't BAD being on the go stop that thought? I've always believed that ending The Clash II allowed both to work together again, free of any pressure, hence No.10 Uping Street.WestwayKid wrote: ↑09 Oct 2017, 11:11amClassic story! Youth eventually made it back into KJ. I wonder if Mick would have eventually rejoined the Clash if they had managed to stick around long enough?
Look. We've all fallen drunkenly off bullet trains in Tokyo. That's hardly a good reason.
Hugh Cornwell left The Stranglers in 1990 and the band have survived extremely well. Now with their third vocalist and just announced their 2018 tour. They are still worthy of going to see.WestwayKid wrote: ↑09 Oct 2017, 11:08amInteresting that many of the bands mentioned managed to keep going and even thrive. Sabbath only called it quits this year. Echo came back - with Ian. Even Glen made it back with the Pistols, ha!
I'm honestly surprised CtC was as tuneful as it was. But they certainly missed Mick's ear for what was hip. He nailed it with TIBAD and left the Clash looking even worse. It was a strange coincidence that those LP's got released the same week, is it worthy of a conspiracy theory?Marky Dread wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 3:17pmHugh Cornwell left The Stranglers in 1990 and the band have survived extremely well. Now with their third vocalist and just announced their 2018 tour. They are still worthy of going to see.WestwayKid wrote: ↑09 Oct 2017, 11:08amInteresting that many of the bands mentioned managed to keep going and even thrive. Sabbath only called it quits this year. Echo came back - with Ian. Even Glen made it back with the Pistols, ha!
The Undertones without Feargal.
I think in the case of Mick Jones his being the true tunesmith of the band killed The Clash. Joe wasn't half the musician Mick was and Mick was really inventive and always more appreciative of new sounds.
I would blame Bernie for that, if a choice was made.Heston wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 6:34pmI'm honestly surprised CtC was as tuneful as it was. But they certainly missed Mick's ear for what was hip. He nailed it with TIBAD and left the Clash looking even worse. It was a strange coincidence that those LP's got released the same week, is it worthy of a conspiracy theory?Marky Dread wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 3:17pmHugh Cornwell left The Stranglers in 1990 and the band have survived extremely well. Now with their third vocalist and just announced their 2018 tour. They are still worthy of going to see.WestwayKid wrote: ↑09 Oct 2017, 11:08amInteresting that many of the bands mentioned managed to keep going and even thrive. Sabbath only called it quits this year. Echo came back - with Ian. Even Glen made it back with the Pistols, ha!
The Undertones without Feargal.
I think in the case of Mick Jones his being the true tunesmith of the band killed The Clash. Joe wasn't half the musician Mick was and Mick was really inventive and always more appreciative of new sounds.
How much influence do bands have on release schedules? I suppose managers would be involved and, yeah, Bernie's deluded enough that he'd think that his album would definitely be better than Mick's. The Clash had a name recognition advantage but what else?Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 6:42pmI would blame Bernie for that, if a choice was made.Heston wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 6:34pmI'm honestly surprised CtC was as tuneful as it was. But they certainly missed Mick's ear for what was hip. He nailed it with TIBAD and left the Clash looking even worse. It was a strange coincidence that those LP's got released the same week, is it worthy of a conspiracy theory?Marky Dread wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 3:17pmHugh Cornwell left The Stranglers in 1990 and the band have survived extremely well. Now with their third vocalist and just announced their 2018 tour. They are still worthy of going to see.WestwayKid wrote: ↑09 Oct 2017, 11:08amInteresting that many of the bands mentioned managed to keep going and even thrive. Sabbath only called it quits this year. Echo came back - with Ian. Even Glen made it back with the Pistols, ha!
The Undertones without Feargal.
I think in the case of Mick Jones his being the true tunesmith of the band killed The Clash. Joe wasn't half the musician Mick was and Mick was really inventive and always more appreciative of new sounds.
Yeah, I think CTC was sat on for a good stretch after having been recorded too.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 6:47pmHow much influence do bands have on release schedules? I suppose managers would be involved and, yeah, Bernie's deluded enough that he'd think that his album would definitely be better than Mick's. The Clash had a name recognition advantage but what else?Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 6:42pmI would blame Bernie for that, if a choice was made.Heston wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 6:34pmI'm honestly surprised CtC was as tuneful as it was. But they certainly missed Mick's ear for what was hip. He nailed it with TIBAD and left the Clash looking even worse. It was a strange coincidence that those LP's got released the same week, is it worthy of a conspiracy theory?Marky Dread wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 3:17pmHugh Cornwell left The Stranglers in 1990 and the band have survived extremely well. Now with their third vocalist and just announced their 2018 tour. They are still worthy of going to see.WestwayKid wrote: ↑09 Oct 2017, 11:08amInteresting that many of the bands mentioned managed to keep going and even thrive. Sabbath only called it quits this year. Echo came back - with Ian. Even Glen made it back with the Pistols, ha!
The Undertones without Feargal.
I think in the case of Mick Jones his being the true tunesmith of the band killed The Clash. Joe wasn't half the musician Mick was and Mick was really inventive and always more appreciative of new sounds.
Not hard enough.
… ladies.Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 7:33pmOr too hard?
I think the labels are pretty much the final word on that stuff, as I imagine it's all based on fiscal quarters, marketing campaigns, and all that crap.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 6:47pmHow much influence do bands have on release schedules? I suppose managers would be involved and, yeah, Bernie's deluded enough that he'd think that his album would definitely be better than Mick's. The Clash had a name recognition advantage but what else?Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 6:42pmI would blame Bernie for that, if a choice was made.Heston wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 6:34pmI'm honestly surprised CtC was as tuneful as it was. But they certainly missed Mick's ear for what was hip. He nailed it with TIBAD and left the Clash looking even worse. It was a strange coincidence that those LP's got released the same week, is it worthy of a conspiracy theory?Marky Dread wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 3:17pmHugh Cornwell left The Stranglers in 1990 and the band have survived extremely well. Now with their third vocalist and just announced their 2018 tour. They are still worthy of going to see.WestwayKid wrote: ↑09 Oct 2017, 11:08amInteresting that many of the bands mentioned managed to keep going and even thrive. Sabbath only called it quits this year. Echo came back - with Ian. Even Glen made it back with the Pistols, ha!
The Undertones without Feargal.
I think in the case of Mick Jones his being the true tunesmith of the band killed The Clash. Joe wasn't half the musician Mick was and Mick was really inventive and always more appreciative of new sounds.
That's like a quarter of a CD.Kory wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 7:51pmI think the labels are pretty much the final word on that stuff, as I imagine it's all based on fiscal quarters, marketing campaigns, and all that crap.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 6:47pmHow much influence do bands have on release schedules? I suppose managers would be involved and, yeah, Bernie's deluded enough that he'd think that his album would definitely be better than Mick's. The Clash had a name recognition advantage but what else?Silent Majority wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 6:42pmI would blame Bernie for that, if a choice was made.Heston wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 6:34pmI'm honestly surprised CtC was as tuneful as it was. But they certainly missed Mick's ear for what was hip. He nailed it with TIBAD and left the Clash looking even worse. It was a strange coincidence that those LP's got released the same week, is it worthy of a conspiracy theory?Marky Dread wrote: ↑10 Oct 2017, 3:17pm
Hugh Cornwell left The Stranglers in 1990 and the band have survived extremely well. Now with their third vocalist and just announced their 2018 tour. They are still worthy of going to see.
The Undertones without Feargal.
I think in the case of Mick Jones his being the true tunesmith of the band killed The Clash. Joe wasn't half the musician Mick was and Mick was really inventive and always more appreciative of new sounds.