This Is England (pitch corrected vocal)

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This Is England (pitch corrected vocal)

Post by Heston » 02 Oct 2017, 5:38pm

I remember a while back someone posting a link to this. Someone had put Joe's voice back to its original pitch yet kept the tempo of the track the same. I can't remember if it was a download or a YouTube video. Would anyone happen to have it?
So what does Marconi playing the mamba mean? "Marconi" is referring to the radio itself. It plays a deadly snake. The snake - the mamba - is slithering from the speakers. Ready to kill greedy corporations. Ready to free the world of all that is evil, and to leave behind only the youthful idealism encompassed by the tenets of rock and roll.

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Re: This Is England (pitch corrected vocal)

Post by matedog » 02 Oct 2017, 6:13pm

Heston wrote:
02 Oct 2017, 5:38pm
I remember a while back someone posting a link to this. Someone had put Joe's voice back to its original pitch yet kept the tempo of the track the same. I can't remember if it was a download or a YouTube video. Would anyone happen to have it?
That was my doing!


I tried to upload it a few times for download, but the sites kept catching it as copyrighted material. I could email it to you if I dust off my old laptop.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Re: This Is England (pitch corrected vocal)

Post by Heston » 02 Oct 2017, 11:40pm

matedog wrote:
02 Oct 2017, 6:13pm
Heston wrote:
02 Oct 2017, 5:38pm
I remember a while back someone posting a link to this. Someone had put Joe's voice back to its original pitch yet kept the tempo of the track the same. I can't remember if it was a download or a YouTube video. Would anyone happen to have it?
That was my doing!


I tried to upload it a few times for download, but the sites kept catching it as copyrighted material. I could email it to you if I dust off my old laptop.
It's okay, I have a YouTube to mp3 converter, many thanks. Great job btw, the definitive version for me.
So what does Marconi playing the mamba mean? "Marconi" is referring to the radio itself. It plays a deadly snake. The snake - the mamba - is slithering from the speakers. Ready to kill greedy corporations. Ready to free the world of all that is evil, and to leave behind only the youthful idealism encompassed by the tenets of rock and roll.

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Re: This Is England (pitch corrected vocal)

Post by BR16ADE_R055E » 03 Oct 2017, 12:36am

matedog wrote:
02 Oct 2017, 6:13pm
Heston wrote:
02 Oct 2017, 5:38pm
I remember a while back someone posting a link to this. Someone had put Joe's voice back to its original pitch yet kept the tempo of the track the same. I can't remember if it was a download or a YouTube video. Would anyone happen to have it?
That was my doing!


I tried to upload it a few times for download, but the sites kept catching it as copyrighted material. I could email it to you if I dust off my old laptop.
Thanks.

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Re: This Is England (pitch corrected vocal)

Post by coffeepotman » 03 Oct 2017, 2:29am

Such promise....that 12 inch, and what artwork, I used to stare at it for hours imaging that is what it would be like when I moved to NYC

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Re: This Is England (pitch corrected vocal)

Post by matedog » 03 Oct 2017, 10:18am

Heston wrote:
02 Oct 2017, 11:40pm
matedog wrote:
02 Oct 2017, 6:13pm
Heston wrote:
02 Oct 2017, 5:38pm
I remember a while back someone posting a link to this. Someone had put Joe's voice back to its original pitch yet kept the tempo of the track the same. I can't remember if it was a download or a YouTube video. Would anyone happen to have it?
That was my doing!


I tried to upload it a few times for download, but the sites kept catching it as copyrighted material. I could email it to you if I dust off my old laptop.
It's okay, I have a YouTube to mp3 converter, many thanks. Great job btw, the definitive version for me.
I can't listen to the original version anymore.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Re: This Is England (pitch corrected vocal)

Post by Kory » 03 Oct 2017, 1:13pm

matedog wrote:
02 Oct 2017, 6:13pm
Heston wrote:
02 Oct 2017, 5:38pm
I remember a while back someone posting a link to this. Someone had put Joe's voice back to its original pitch yet kept the tempo of the track the same. I can't remember if it was a download or a YouTube video. Would anyone happen to have it?
That was my doing!


I tried to upload it a few times for download, but the sites kept catching it as copyrighted material. I could email it to you if I dust off my old laptop.
What program did you use for the editing?
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Re: This Is England (pitch corrected vocal)

Post by matedog » 03 Oct 2017, 1:31pm

Kory wrote:
03 Oct 2017, 1:13pm
matedog wrote:
02 Oct 2017, 6:13pm
Heston wrote:
02 Oct 2017, 5:38pm
I remember a while back someone posting a link to this. Someone had put Joe's voice back to its original pitch yet kept the tempo of the track the same. I can't remember if it was a download or a YouTube video. Would anyone happen to have it?
That was my doing!


I tried to upload it a few times for download, but the sites kept catching it as copyrighted material. I could email it to you if I dust off my old laptop.
What program did you use for the editing?
Audacity
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Re: This Is England (pitch corrected vocal)

Post by appleseed1 » 03 Oct 2017, 11:36pm

I saw this on facebook today. I've always loved the original, but for me from this point forward this is the definitive version. When you were playing around with it did the song itself sound like it needed to be slowed down as well? Presumably not since you only corrected the vocals, but you have me curious now.

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Re: This Is England (pitch corrected vocal)

Post by Heston » 04 Oct 2017, 5:29am

appleseed1 wrote:
03 Oct 2017, 11:36pm
I saw this on facebook today. I've always loved the original, but for me from this point forward this is the definitive version. When you were playing around with it did the song itself sound like it needed to be slowed down as well? Presumably not since you only corrected the vocals, but you have me curious now.
The fact the music is in between keys suggests the whole track was sped up. Probably a last minute decision to add some zip to the track. What Matedog has done is realise their vision for the song but without the chipmunk vocal.
So what does Marconi playing the mamba mean? "Marconi" is referring to the radio itself. It plays a deadly snake. The snake - the mamba - is slithering from the speakers. Ready to kill greedy corporations. Ready to free the world of all that is evil, and to leave behind only the youthful idealism encompassed by the tenets of rock and roll.

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Re: This Is England (pitch corrected vocal)

Post by matedog » 04 Oct 2017, 10:16am

Heston wrote:
04 Oct 2017, 5:29am
appleseed1 wrote:
03 Oct 2017, 11:36pm
I saw this on facebook today. I've always loved the original, but for me from this point forward this is the definitive version. When you were playing around with it did the song itself sound like it needed to be slowed down as well? Presumably not since you only corrected the vocals, but you have me curious now.
The fact the music is in between keys suggests the whole track was sped up. Probably a last minute decision to add some zip to the track. What Matedog has done is realise their vision for the song but without the chipmunk vocal.
I would imagine the song was probably recorded slower and the whole thing sped up. I just dropped the key of the vocal because I thought the song would drag. It would be interesting to hear it all slowed down. I doubt I'll get around to it any time soon, so if someone wants to try, go ahead. I'm shitty with technology in general, but Audacity was pretty easy to figure out. And free.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Re: This Is England (pitch corrected vocal)

Post by Heston » 04 Oct 2017, 10:36am

matedog wrote:
04 Oct 2017, 10:16am
Heston wrote:
04 Oct 2017, 5:29am
appleseed1 wrote:
03 Oct 2017, 11:36pm
I saw this on facebook today. I've always loved the original, but for me from this point forward this is the definitive version. When you were playing around with it did the song itself sound like it needed to be slowed down as well? Presumably not since you only corrected the vocals, but you have me curious now.
The fact the music is in between keys suggests the whole track was sped up. Probably a last minute decision to add some zip to the track. What Matedog has done is realise their vision for the song but without the chipmunk vocal.
I would imagine the song was probably recorded slower and the whole thing sped up. I just dropped the key of the vocal because I thought the song would drag. It would be interesting to hear it all slowed down. I doubt I'll get around to it any time soon, so if someone wants to try, go ahead. I'm shitty with technology in general, but Audacity was pretty easy to figure out. And free.
Indeed, which is why they would have sped it up in the first place. The funny thing is, I think Cut the Crap was recorded in a digital studio, so I'm surprised they never had the facility to speed it up without altering the pitch. Maybe the technology was too primitive at the time.
So what does Marconi playing the mamba mean? "Marconi" is referring to the radio itself. It plays a deadly snake. The snake - the mamba - is slithering from the speakers. Ready to kill greedy corporations. Ready to free the world of all that is evil, and to leave behind only the youthful idealism encompassed by the tenets of rock and roll.

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Re: This Is England (pitch corrected vocal)

Post by Marky Dread » 10 Nov 2017, 8:23pm

Heston wrote:
04 Oct 2017, 10:36am
matedog wrote:
04 Oct 2017, 10:16am
Heston wrote:
04 Oct 2017, 5:29am
appleseed1 wrote:
03 Oct 2017, 11:36pm
I saw this on facebook today. I've always loved the original, but for me from this point forward this is the definitive version. When you were playing around with it did the song itself sound like it needed to be slowed down as well? Presumably not since you only corrected the vocals, but you have me curious now.
The fact the music is in between keys suggests the whole track was sped up. Probably a last minute decision to add some zip to the track. What Matedog has done is realise their vision for the song but without the chipmunk vocal.
I would imagine the song was probably recorded slower and the whole thing sped up. I just dropped the key of the vocal because I thought the song would drag. It would be interesting to hear it all slowed down. I doubt I'll get around to it any time soon, so if someone wants to try, go ahead. I'm shitty with technology in general, but Audacity was pretty easy to figure out. And free.
Indeed, which is why they would have sped it up in the first place. The funny thing is, I think Cut the Crap was recorded in a digital studio, so I'm surprised they never had the facility to speed it up without altering the pitch. Maybe the technology was too primitive at the time.
While this track is obviously sped up The problem is not just speed and pitch. Joe's voice at times really does have chipmunk sound to it. Obviously not as exagerated as here but it naturally does have a very odd inflection to it at times. I've noticed this on a few live boots. When I've put the speed back to it's correct pace Joe's voice just sounds too sluggish.
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