Yeah I'm not declaring it to be a masterpiece but there was promise enough (with work) for it to become a fine track.Heston wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 6:42pmI like Pouring Rain but never got the overt praise. Some nice guitar hooks but the vocal melody is nothing to write home about, and like you say, the main lyrical hook is a bit hackneyed. Maybe if I heard a studio version...TeddyB Not Logged In wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 5:51pmNever understood the fuss about Pouring Rain, with such a cliché as lyric hook, but do rate Three Card Trick, and prefer the "ska" version to the earlier "rock" one. It was Mick himself who blessed This is England as the one great song from CTC.Marky Dread wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 2:47pmA lot has been made of "This Is England" being the last great clash song but for me "Three Card Trick" and "In the Pouring Rain" are fine songs.Low Down Low wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 8:37amIt's a good production Marky, though musically it doesn't do much for me. I find myself wading through too much crap and then, with Pouring Rain, realising that, hey, this band could still play. Ammunition isn't bad, somewhere there's a good song in there, trying desperately to get out.
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Yeah I'm going to rework those demos (again). Watch this space.
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I really like it. Dont mind the hackneyed lyric, its rock n roll after all. I think it is way better than anything else the Clash did post-Mick. There isnt the same grating wall of sound you get in a lot of their other live tracks and Joe's vocal delivery is perfect, tender and under-stated. Dont mind that there isn't a studio version as I seriously doubt they'd have improved it. And I do believe This is England is a truly great song, but never thought much of any of the live versions I've heard.Marky Dread wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 7:10pmYeah I'm not declaring it to be a masterpiece but there was promise enough (with work) for it to become a fine track.Heston wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 6:42pmI like Pouring Rain but never got the overt praise. Some nice guitar hooks but the vocal melody is nothing to write home about, and like you say, the main lyrical hook is a bit hackneyed. Maybe if I heard a studio version...TeddyB Not Logged In wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 5:51pmNever understood the fuss about Pouring Rain, with such a cliché as lyric hook, but do rate Three Card Trick, and prefer the "ska" version to the earlier "rock" one. It was Mick himself who blessed This is England as the one great song from CTC.Marky Dread wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 2:47pmA lot has been made of "This Is England" being the last great clash song but for me "Three Card Trick" and "In the Pouring Rain" are fine songs.Low Down Low wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 8:37amIt's a good production Marky, though musically it doesn't do much for me. I find myself wading through too much crap and then, with Pouring Rain, realising that, hey, this band could still play. Ammunition isn't bad, somewhere there's a good song in there, trying desperately to get out.
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Yeah that kinda made me chuckle in the documentary when Mick says it just needed his input. If only he had not been pushed aside. It's laughable really when one of the claims is Mick was sacked for bringing in a synth to rehearsals. Then Bernie covers the album in synths.TeddyB Not Logged In wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 5:51pmNever understood the fuss about Pouring Rain, with such a cliché as lyric hook, but do rate Three Card Trick, and prefer the "ska" version to the earlier "rock" one. It was Mick himself who blessed This is England as the one great song from CTC.Marky Dread wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 2:47pmA lot has been made of "This Is England" being the last great clash song but for me "Three Card Trick" and "In the Pouring Rain" are fine songs.Low Down Low wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 8:37amIt's a good production Marky, though musically it doesn't do much for me. I find myself wading through too much crap and then, with Pouring Rain, realising that, hey, this band could still play. Ammunition isn't bad, somewhere there's a good song in there, trying desperately to get out.
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"In the Pouring Rain" could've been CtC's "Straight to Hell" of course not in the same league but in feel maybe.Low Down Low wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 7:20pmI really like it. Dont mind the hackneyed lyric, its rock n roll after all. I think it is way better than anything else the Clash did post-Mick. There isnt the same grating wall of sound you get in a lot of their other live tracks and Joe's vocal delivery is perfect, tender and under-stated. Dont mind that there isn't a studio version as I seriously doubt they'd have improved it. And I do believe This is England is a truly great song, but never thought much of any of the live versions I've heard.Marky Dread wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 7:10pmYeah I'm not declaring it to be a masterpiece but there was promise enough (with work) for it to become a fine track.Heston wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 6:42pmI like Pouring Rain but never got the overt praise. Some nice guitar hooks but the vocal melody is nothing to write home about, and like you say, the main lyrical hook is a bit hackneyed. Maybe if I heard a studio version...TeddyB Not Logged In wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 5:51pmNever understood the fuss about Pouring Rain, with such a cliché as lyric hook, but do rate Three Card Trick, and prefer the "ska" version to the earlier "rock" one. It was Mick himself who blessed This is England as the one great song from CTC.Marky Dread wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 2:47pm
A lot has been made of "This Is England" being the last great clash song but for me "Three Card Trick" and "In the Pouring Rain" are fine songs.
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Not a bad shout. I always like it when Joe takes it down a notch during live shows. The StH from FHTE is quite possibly the best thing the Clash ever did.Marky Dread wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 7:27pm"In the Pouring Rain" could've been CtC's "Straight to Hell" of course not in the same league but in feel maybe.Low Down Low wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 7:20pmI really like it. Dont mind the hackneyed lyric, its rock n roll after all. I think it is way better than anything else the Clash did post-Mick. There isnt the same grating wall of sound you get in a lot of their other live tracks and Joe's vocal delivery is perfect, tender and under-stated. Dont mind that there isn't a studio version as I seriously doubt they'd have improved it. And I do believe This is England is a truly great song, but never thought much of any of the live versions I've heard.Marky Dread wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 7:10pmYeah I'm not declaring it to be a masterpiece but there was promise enough (with work) for it to become a fine track.Heston wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 6:42pmI like Pouring Rain but never got the overt praise. Some nice guitar hooks but the vocal melody is nothing to write home about, and like you say, the main lyrical hook is a bit hackneyed. Maybe if I heard a studio version...TeddyB Not Logged In wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 5:51pm
Never understood the fuss about Pouring Rain, with such a cliché as lyric hook, but do rate Three Card Trick, and prefer the "ska" version to the earlier "rock" one. It was Mick himself who blessed This is England as the one great song from CTC.
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This is excellent. Thanks so much for your great hard work. I'm going to consider this the first Joe Strummer solo album. Not being a big listener of post-Mick live shows (or live shows that much anyway) my big surprise is how much I like Dictator on here.Marky Dread wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 2:39pmThe correct term is "take care of crap".Silent Majority wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 10:03amThanks very much, I'm listening today as I take care of some shit. Will report back.
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Thanks mate glad you enjoy it.Silent Majority wrote: ↑30 Aug 2017, 4:46amThis is excellent. Thanks so much for your great hard work. I'm going to consider this the first Joe Strummer solo album. Not being a big listener of post-Mick live shows (or live shows that much anyway) my big surprise is how much I like Dictator on here.Marky Dread wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 2:39pmThe correct term is "take care of crap".Silent Majority wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 10:03amThanks very much, I'm listening today as I take care of some shit. Will report back.
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Excellent!Marky Dread wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 7:20pm
Yeah I'm going to rework those demos (again). Watch this space.
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Hello,Marky Dread wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 7:24pmYeah that kinda made me chuckle in the documentary when Mick says it just needed his input. If only he had not been pushed aside. It's laughable really when one of the claims is Mick was sacked for bringing in a synth to rehearsals. Then Bernie covers the album in synths.TeddyB Not Logged In wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 5:51pmNever understood the fuss about Pouring Rain, with such a cliché as lyric hook, but do rate Three Card Trick, and prefer the "ska" version to the earlier "rock" one. It was Mick himself who blessed This is England as the one great song from CTC.Marky Dread wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 2:47pmA lot has been made of "This Is England" being the last great clash song but for me "Three Card Trick" and "In the Pouring Rain" are fine songs.Low Down Low wrote: ↑29 Aug 2017, 8:37amIt's a good production Marky, though musically it doesn't do much for me. I find myself wading through too much crap and then, with Pouring Rain, realising that, hey, this band could still play. Ammunition isn't bad, somewhere there's a good song in there, trying desperately to get out.
Where could I find the ska version of Three Card Trick? For what it's worth, I prefer the ska version of Bankrobber although that may put me in the minority here.
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Sorry for being unclear. The "ska" version of Three Card Trick is like the one on the CTC album, or the '85 live shows. Mr. Knowles and others differentiated it from the earlier "rock" version," which they preferred.
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So pity i’ve lost this one too…Marky Dread wrote: ↑28 Aug 2017, 3:20pmCame so close to calling this "From Hell to Eternity".
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Only 5 years too late.Stefano1972 wrote: ↑23 Jul 2022, 8:28pmSo pity i’ve lost this one too…Marky Dread wrote: ↑28 Aug 2017, 3:20pmCame so close to calling this "From Hell to Eternity".
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Sigh… i’ve discovered this website only one year ago. But, anyway thanks for all the other remasters i’ve already taken. Florence 81 where i’ve added a short Mick interview at the end, Brixton 82, Amsterdam 81 and many othersMarky Dread wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 4:59amOnly 5 years too late.Stefano1972 wrote: ↑23 Jul 2022, 8:28pmSo pity i’ve lost this one too…Marky Dread wrote: ↑28 Aug 2017, 3:20pmCame so close to calling this "From Hell to Eternity".
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