The last time you heard CtC.

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101Walterton wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 3:36pm
I don't mind FNBIL, Look Here, Radio One.
Yet you dislike Three Card Trick? This is the kind of irrational insanity I'm talking about.
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101Walterton wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 3:47pm
Crooked Beat would fare much better without Paul on vocals.
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This is the most we've talked about The Clash in like five years. 😎👍

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I like Crooked Beat just fine. I mean it's not good, but it's kinda funny and kinda catchy. The great songs around it somehow elevate it.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Flex wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 3:51pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 3:47pm
Inder wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 3:45pm
Crooked Beat transcribed:

duh-duh-duh-duh-duuuh duh-duh-de-duuh
ffffwap
duh-duh-duh-duh-duuuh duh-duh-de-duuh
fffffwap ffffwap
chikkkachikkkachikkkachikkkachikkka

staht the cah let's make a midnight won
acwoss the rivuh to saaf lon-don

☠️☠️☠️
Put that way, maybe it's pretty cool.
Extremely glad to see Inder is making my own case in this thread.
Paul has said a number of times that the basslines he came up with would invariably turned into reggae songs by the rest of the band, and that if he had more musical knowhow, he'd have directed them in a more rocking fashion. Now, this song was obviously meant to be a reggae song, so what songs is he talking about? Did he write the music to RAD? Are there other songs that Paul was instrumental in composing that we don't know about?
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matedog wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 4:15pm
I like Crooked Beat just fine. I mean it's not good, but it's kinda funny and kinda catchy. The great songs around it somehow elevate it.
The song is good just that it could have been much better without Paul's vocals.

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Heston wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 3:52pm
101Walterton wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 3:36pm
I don't mind FNBIL, Look Here, Radio One.
Yet you dislike Three Card Trick? This is the kind of irrational insanity I'm talking about.
Ok just for a you I will do a listening test today 😊

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101Walterton wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 4:27pm
matedog wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 4:15pm
I like Crooked Beat just fine. I mean it's not good, but it's kinda funny and kinda catchy. The great songs around it somehow elevate it.
The song is good just that it could have been much better without Paul's vocals.
Which is interesting, because I think Paul's vocals serve GOB perfectly. But you are absolutely right.
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Because I am lazy and can't be bothered to walk downstairs to get the CD or the vinyl I looked up CTC on Spotify.
Couldn't find the album but found a CTC playlist and thought that would do however despite the 62 tracks NONE are actually from CTC!
Interestingly Look Here, Crooked Beat, Mensforth Hill, Red Angel Dragnet, Junkie Slip, Death Is A Star, Atom Tan the kids Career Op' are included.
The one conclusion we can draw is that Heston didn't put that comp together.

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JennyB wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 4:51pm
101Walterton wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 4:27pm
matedog wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 4:15pm
I like Crooked Beat just fine. I mean it's not good, but it's kinda funny and kinda catchy. The great songs around it somehow elevate it.
The song is good just that it could have been much better without Paul's vocals.
Which is interesting, because I think Paul's vocals serve GOB perfectly. But you are absolutely right.
Agreed his vocals are better suited to GOB.

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101Walterton wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 4:52pm
Because I am lazy and can't be bothered to walk downstairs to get the CD or the vinyl I looked up CTC on Spotify.
Couldn't find the album but found a CTC playlist and thought that would do however despite the 62 tracks NONE are actually from CTC!
Interestingly Look Here, Crooked Beat, Mensforth Hill, Red Angel Dragnet, Junkie Slip, Death Is A Star, Atom Tan the kids Career Op' are included.
The one conclusion we can draw is that Heston didn't put that comp together.
Weird, it's easy to find on US Spotify. Does this work?
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 4:57pm
101Walterton wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 4:52pm
Because I am lazy and can't be bothered to walk downstairs to get the CD or the vinyl I looked up CTC on Spotify.
Couldn't find the album but found a CTC playlist and thought that would do however despite the 62 tracks NONE are actually from CTC!
Interestingly Look Here, Crooked Beat, Mensforth Hill, Red Angel Dragnet, Junkie Slip, Death Is A Star, Atom Tan the kids Career Op' are included.
The one conclusion we can draw is that Heston didn't put that comp together.
Weird, it's easy to find on US Spotify. Does this work?
Weirdly no. I tried searching all ways but according to Spotify it doesn't exist and nor do the tracks. Every other Clash album including comps are on there???
Perhaps Spotify is human afterall.

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When I search This Is England the only version it knows is Dub Spencer and Trance Hill.

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This is 2017, just listen to it on YouTube...

There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Kory wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 4:18pm
Flex wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 3:51pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 3:47pm
Inder wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 3:45pm
Crooked Beat transcribed:

duh-duh-duh-duh-duuuh duh-duh-de-duuh
ffffwap
duh-duh-duh-duh-duuuh duh-duh-de-duuh
fffffwap ffffwap
chikkkachikkkachikkkachikkkachikkka

staht the cah let's make a midnight won
acwoss the rivuh to saaf lon-don

☠️☠️☠️
Put that way, maybe it's pretty cool.
Extremely glad to see Inder is making my own case in this thread.
Paul has said a number of times that the basslines he came up with would invariably turned into reggae songs by the rest of the band, and that if he had more musical knowhow, he'd have directed them in a more rocking fashion. Now, this song was obviously meant to be a reggae song, so what songs is he talking about? Did he write the music to RAD? Are there other songs that Paul was instrumental in composing that we don't know about?
According to the Complete Clash song book (which breaks down the writing credits), he is on quite a bit of stuff from 1980 onward.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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