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Strummservations

Post by Wolter » 17 Feb 2011, 11:50pm

A Strummservation: The film version of "Minstrel Boy" kicks all sorts of ass.
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Post by Chuck Mangione » 18 Feb 2011, 12:03am

I agree. I love the way he sings out some of the lyrics on that shorter version too. Very passionate, in my opinion. Much better than the lengthier one which has the humming and humble mumbling of some of the words from the song. The long version is still very touching and unique sounding though. I especially like the ending.

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Post by Flex » 18 Feb 2011, 12:44am

Love that version of that song. And I don't mean that to bag on the album version, but there's a chance that the soundtrack version of "Minstrel Boy" may be my favorite post-Clash Joe cut.
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Post by Flex » 18 Feb 2011, 12:45am

Strummservation: I take that back, the extended mix of "Boogie with Your Children" is my favorite post-Clash Joe cut. Finest thing he'd done since the AOR mix of "Fingerpoppin'"
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Post by Wolter » 18 Feb 2011, 1:04am

Flex wrote:Strummservation: I take that back, the extended mix of "Boogie with Your Children" is my favorite post-Clash Joe cut. Finest thing he'd done since the AOR mix of "Fingerpoppin'"
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Post by matedog » 18 Feb 2011, 11:21am

I made the strummservation recently that Joe, a man not known for his vocal range, stretches really far in this one. From a really low rumble to what has to be the upper range of his non-falsetto voice (on the "war is gone" part). Fairly impressive.
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Post by Jimmy Jazz » 18 Feb 2011, 1:49pm

I miss Joe. We could have had three or four more Mescaleros albums by now.

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Post by Wolter » 18 Feb 2011, 1:52pm

Jimmy Jazz wrote:I miss Joe. We could have had three or four more Mescaleros albums by now.
Yeah. I've been on a serious Mescaleros kick lately. Not sure what sparked it, but I'm really missing him now.
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Post by Chuck Mangione » 18 Feb 2011, 6:14pm

Wolter wrote:Not sure what sparked it
It was probably this thread getting bumped.
http://clashcity.com/boards/viewtopic.p ... 86#p232786

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Post by Chuck Mangione » 18 Feb 2011, 6:18pm

Damn, I miss him too. Three more albums would have been nice. And Hoy, you made some good points about Minstrel Boy.

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Post by daredevil » 18 Feb 2011, 6:21pm

Mondo Bongo is an awesome song. And it sounds amazing while driving on a deserted highway late at night.

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Post by Chuck Mangione » 18 Feb 2011, 6:23pm

The '88 Coasters, Edinburgh, Scotland Latino Rockabilly War gig (I mentioned the same show in a recent, I think) has got to be one of the best ones, mainly because of the diversity of the setlist. Keys to Your Heart, fully Joe sung Somebody Got Murdered, and Sightsee MC! all in one set. A true gem of a concert.

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Post by bondintlcasino » 18 Feb 2011, 11:45pm

I love that Minstrel Boy too, but for me, the best post-Clash tune is Get Down Moses

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Post by rudebhoy » 19 Feb 2011, 12:54pm

Chuck Mangione wrote:The '88 Coasters, Edinburgh, Scotland Latino Rockabilly War gig (I mentioned the same show in a recent, I think) has got to be one of the best ones, mainly because of the diversity of the setlist. Keys to Your Heart, fully Joe sung Somebody Got Murdered, and Sightsee MC! all in one set. A true gem of a concert.
I saw the LRW gig at Glasgow Barrowlands a couple of nights earlier - Joe was on great form, he always loved playing Glasgow, even when he got arrested :mrgreen:

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Post by CorwoodRep » 22 Feb 2011, 3:04am

I go on a Mescaleros kick a couple times a year. Those are legitimately underrated albums, and I don't say that as a Strummer fanboy. I don't know why Global A Go-Go didn't make any best of the year lists. And the live shows in 2001 and toward the end of 2002 were basically all dynamite. I think the Mescaleros sort of rendered a Clash comeback creatively irrelevant.
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