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dave202 wrote:
101Walterton wrote:and both their names start with a capital letter.
I couldn't agree more, it's clutching at straws to find any parallels. For a start there are only five proper Clash albums. No amount of saying 'unreleased in the States' will ever make Black Market Clash anything other than a good compilation of b-sides and tracks from he UK debut, along with the genuine unreleased 'Time Is Tight'. The music covers a time span of two years, it isn't an album as such. And as for 'Cut The Crap' being Joe's first solo album? Isn't it Bernie's wrecking ball of an album?

I'd rather leave it at Joe and Paul being themselves and leave sinister, hidden messages and secret connections to someone like Dan Brown. File under fiction.
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Westerberg titled a song "Alex Chilton." Strummer titled a song "Sean Flynn."

Westerberg is in his wilderness years now, BTW.

Here's a Westerberg message board's take on the same comparison ... not the first time it's come up there either: http://paulwesterberg.proboards.com/ind ... hread=6861

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muppet hi fi wrote:"You say you like the Clash/ that's cool/ I like Kiss." (I forget which song, it's one of the bonus tracks on the re-master of "Sorry Ma,...").

Paul actually wasn't a big Clash fan at all, and once knocked Joe's singing.
I think maybe he's in the same love/hate relationship this whole board is in.

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What's this 'love' nonsense?
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Silent Majority wrote:What's this 'love' nonsense?
Hate and War.
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Googled "Westerberg Strummer" and this was the second result. The first result:

On that excellent Dave Minehan tells in the first teaser at the "Color Me Obsessed" website, Strummer says (joke spoiler alert): "I don't mean to shoot the messenger, but could you do me a favor and tell Paul Westerberg that some people actually like the way I sing?"
Kind of an introspective guy. Yet a whole lot of rock fans are anxious for the Replacements to pick up the mantle carried so long by the Stones and dropped by the Clash -- who decided they didn't want it. In fact, we could get some of our college trained rock psychologists to explain how the Replacements are filling the void left by the Clash -- the need for an uncompromising, defiant punk band with hearts of gold. The Give 'Em Enough Rope opening salvo of the Replacements' "Bastards of Young" made a strong claim for that Clash territory. Only one problem: "I never liked the Clash," Westerberg says. "Joe couldn't sing and he can't sing. I drop my voice. Maybe they're nice guys and true to their beliefs and they're a tough rock band, but i never liked them. I bought the Sex Pistols and the first Clash album and I returned the Clash the same day."
Paul mentions the Clash twice in Mats songs, and he does seem ambivalent:

"Shape up": "I like the New York Dolls and the Clash..."

And then in "Get Lost," he says something like "you say you're a fan of the Clash, and that's fine. I like KISS." Of course, those are both songs from a 20-year old Paul, so it's hard to say what they mean or whether they reflect what Paul's feelings on Strummer and the Clash were.


Tommy, at least, seems to have been a fan of Joe Strummer:

Q. You were a pretty young guy when you started making music, so yeah, some of the well-established people you worked with back then — producers and other musicians and people like that — they’re probably getting up there in years, I would imagine. And obviously a lot of your musical influences and so on.

A. Yeah. The hardest one, and the one that made me really freak out, was when Joe Strummer died. That was like a fucking kick in the head. He was 50. You know? When I think in terms of that, Alex was 59 and Joe Strummer was 50. There’s not a great life expectancy for rock and roll to begin with, and I’m sitting here going, well, I’m only 43 but shit, that could be like 69 by regular age. It just puts things into a perspective that’s not real good. Like, I didn’t really sign up for that part of the rock n roll life [laughs].

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I told you that guy sucks.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:I told you that guy sucks.
Don't be so hard on Joe.
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101Walterton wrote:and both their names start with a capital letter.

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