Joe could have produced Morrissey's Maladjusted...
Joe could have produced Morrissey's Maladjusted...
You never stop to learn... From the liner notes of the remastered edition of "Maladjusted" by the Salford finest himself, I learned that joe offered to produce the 1997 output of the Moz via the guitarist Boz Boorer. Morrissey seemed delighted but perplexed of the chain smoking attitude of the ex clash in the studio: "you can't have fire without smoke, Stephen...". The Morrissey's muse Linder (ex Ludus) vetoed the "marriage" and Moz called steve lillywhite instead...
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Noooo....say it ain't so Joe!! Weird and very interesting story....a wonder that one was ever able to slip through the ether!lanini66 wrote:You never stop to learn... From the liner notes of the remastered edition of "Maladjusted" by the Salford finest himself, I learned that joe offered to produce the 1997 output of the Moz via the guitarist Boz Boorer. Morrissey seemed delighted but perplexed of the chain smoking attitude of the ex clash in the studio: "you can't have fire without smoke, Stephen...". The Morrissey's muse Linder (ex Ludus) vetoed the "marriage" and Moz called steve lillywhite instead...
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Coincidentally, that was when I got off the Morrissey train. Really dull album, silly lyrics, except for the ones about losing the court case to Mike Joyce—those ones were petty and threatening.
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I remember those hilarious lyrics to 'Roy's Keen'Dr. Medulla wrote:Coincidentally, that was when I got off the Morrissey train. Really dull album, silly lyrics, except for the ones about losing the court case to Mike Joyce—those ones were petty and threatening.
Somebody was trying to tell me that CDs are better than vinyl because they don't have any surface noise. I said, "Listen, mate, "life" has surface noise."
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Roy Keane is magicDirty Harry wrote:I remember those hilarious lyrics to 'Roy's Keen'Dr. Medulla wrote:Coincidentally, that was when I got off the Morrissey train. Really dull album, silly lyrics, except for the ones about losing the court case to Mike Joyce—those ones were petty and threatening.
He wears a magic hat
And when he saw Old Trafford
He said I fancy that....
Is that the one?
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So while still recovering from the shock of learning the coolest guy in rock almost worked with the biggest doofus, I had to do a bit of detective work and found this rather amusing version of the story from Joe, who suggests, very plausibly, rather than "offer" his services, the impetus was the other way round. I figure knowing my rather weak constitution was the reason Salewicz ignored this for the biography.
http://www.morrissey-solo.com/articles/ ... 2203.shtml
http://www.morrissey-solo.com/articles/ ... 2203.shtml
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Low Down Low wrote:So while still recovering from the shock of learning the coolest guy in rock almost worked with the biggest doofus, I had to do a bit of detective work and found this rather amusing version of the story from Joe, who suggests, very plausibly, rather than "offer" his services, the impetus was the other way round. I figure knowing my rather weak constitution was the reason Salewicz ignored this for the biography.
http://www.morrissey-solo.com/articles/ ... 2203.shtml
He wanted to cover “Can’t Explain,” that was part of the initial phone message. And I tried to imagine Morrissey singing “Got a feelin’ inside…” And I thought this was a stupid idea! … Because the idea of trying to redo “Can’t Explain”—I couldn’t see the point of it.
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Hoho.Dr. Medulla wrote:He wanted to cover “Can’t Explain,” that was part of the initial phone message. And I tried to imagine Morrissey singing “Got a feelin’ inside…” And I thought this was a stupid idea! … Because the idea of trying to redo “Can’t Explain”—I couldn’t see the point of it.
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I don't think Morrissey likes Roy's Keen himself. He left it off the re-issue mentioned in the original post.Dirty Harry wrote:I remember those hilarious lyrics to 'Roy's Keen'Dr. Medulla wrote:Coincidentally, that was when I got off the Morrissey train. Really dull album, silly lyrics, except for the ones about losing the court case to Mike Joyce—those ones were petty and threatening.
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Not sure either account is correct. The tour with Bowie was in 1995 and Maladjusted wasn't recorded until 1997Low Down Low wrote:So while still recovering from the shock of learning the coolest guy in rock almost worked with the biggest doofus, I had to do a bit of detective work and found this rather amusing version of the story from Joe, who suggests, very plausibly, rather than "offer" his services, the impetus was the other way round. I figure knowing my rather weak constitution was the reason Salewicz ignored this for the biography.
http://www.morrissey-solo.com/articles/ ... 2203.shtml
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You could well be right, truth in these instances is normally somewhere down the middle. I read another comment where after the Bowie gigs, Joe supposedly met Moz and demanded a massive fee for the production. Sounds crap but you never know. I guess what I like about Joe's version is he's having a laugh about it, not taking it seriously, and that's pretty much the later Joe, at peace with himself finally, humble and not professing he's going to change the world anymore. And poor ageing Morrissey still can't do humble or any kind of irony or else I'm completely missing it and the joke's on meoliver wrote:Not sure either account is correct. The tour with Bowie was in 1995 and Maladjusted wasn't recorded until 1997Low Down Low wrote:So while still recovering from the shock of learning the coolest guy in rock almost worked with the biggest doofus, I had to do a bit of detective work and found this rather amusing version of the story from Joe, who suggests, very plausibly, rather than "offer" his services, the impetus was the other way round. I figure knowing my rather weak constitution was the reason Salewicz ignored this for the biography.
http://www.morrissey-solo.com/articles/ ... 2203.shtml
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He can do self-deprecation wonderfully though. My favourite lines from Autobiograpy:Low Down Low wrote:And poor ageing Morrissey still can't do humble or any kind of irony or else I'm completely missing it and the joke's on me
"Naturally my birth almost kills my mother, for my head is too big, but soon it is I, and not my mother, on the critical list at Salford's Pendlebury Hospital ... Once I am discharged from hospital, my sister Jackie, older by two years, is interrupted four times as she attempts to kill me, whether this be rivalry or visionary no one knows."
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That's quite funny.oliver wrote:He can do self-deprecation wonderfully though. My favourite lines from Autobiograpy:Low Down Low wrote:And poor ageing Morrissey still can't do humble or any kind of irony or else I'm completely missing it and the joke's on me
"Naturally my birth almost kills my mother, for my head is too big, but soon it is I, and not my mother, on the critical list at Salford's Pendlebury Hospital ... Once I am discharged from hospital, my sister Jackie, older by two years, is interrupted four times as she attempts to kill me, whether this be rivalry or visionary no one knows."
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ahahahaha. Joe and Moz are two well known liars... Who knows?. Morrissey is aware thar even if Joe would have produced Maladjusted, it would have been a mere footnote in strummer's CV....
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Morrissey does have a wicked sense of humour. Oh the irony.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
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