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The behaviour of a few (whether it is true or not) does not condemn everyone else of the same race / religion.

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JennyB wrote:
nsc wrote:
dpwolf wrote:Nice post NSC, thanks, although I agree it says nothing about Israel.
The Five Dancing Israelis
Arrested On 9-11









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"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."
US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring.

"By way of deception, thou shalt do war"
Motto of the Mossad

link http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... aelis.html
Seriously? This tired conspiracy theory? That's right up there with the people who claim that no Jews were killed on 9-11. Yes, if I recall correctly, the day went a little something like this:
<phone rings>
Saul Goldstein: "Hello?"
The Mossad: "Is this Saul Goldstein who works at the World Trade Center?"
Saul Goldstein: "Yes, who is this?"
The Mossad: "This is the Mossad. Do not, I repeat, do NOT go to work today. You'll find out soon enough."
Saul Goldstein: "OK."

Your claim has been debunked by more sources than claim it is the case. Israelis, more than anyone, can empathize with what happened on 9-11. It's interesting that there is no filmed evidence of your claims, yet there is plenty of filmed evidence of Palestinians dancing with joy on 9-11. It's a shame that you can't see both sides of the issue. I am in full support of a Palestinian state. It seems, however, that those who are vehemently anti-Israel see no room for Israel to exist at all.
a link to the info that debunks the myth would be most welcome.

just because we don't agree doesn't mean that only you can see both sides.

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nsc wrote:
JennyB wrote:
nsc wrote:
dpwolf wrote:Nice post NSC, thanks, although I agree it says nothing about Israel.
The Five Dancing Israelis
Arrested On 9-11









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"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."
US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring.

"By way of deception, thou shalt do war"
Motto of the Mossad

link http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... aelis.html
Seriously? This tired conspiracy theory? That's right up there with the people who claim that no Jews were killed on 9-11. Yes, if I recall correctly, the day went a little something like this:
<phone rings>
Saul Goldstein: "Hello?"
The Mossad: "Is this Saul Goldstein who works at the World Trade Center?"
Saul Goldstein: "Yes, who is this?"
The Mossad: "This is the Mossad. Do not, I repeat, do NOT go to work today. You'll find out soon enough."
Saul Goldstein: "OK."

Your claim has been debunked by more sources than claim it is the case. Israelis, more than anyone, can empathize with what happened on 9-11. It's interesting that there is no filmed evidence of your claims, yet there is plenty of filmed evidence of Palestinians dancing with joy on 9-11. It's a shame that you can't see both sides of the issue. I am in full support of a Palestinian state. It seems, however, that those who are vehemently anti-Israel see no room for Israel to exist at all.
a link to the info that debunks the myth would be most welcome.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. The onus is on you to provide something more compelling if you're going to push this conspiracy.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
nsc wrote:
JennyB wrote:
nsc wrote:
dpwolf wrote:Nice post NSC, thanks, although I agree it says nothing about Israel.
The Five Dancing Israelis
Arrested On 9-11









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"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."
US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring.

"By way of deception, thou shalt do war"
Motto of the Mossad

link http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... aelis.html
Seriously? This tired conspiracy theory? That's right up there with the people who claim that no Jews were killed on 9-11. Yes, if I recall correctly, the day went a little something like this:
<phone rings>
Saul Goldstein: "Hello?"
The Mossad: "Is this Saul Goldstein who works at the World Trade Center?"
Saul Goldstein: "Yes, who is this?"
The Mossad: "This is the Mossad. Do not, I repeat, do NOT go to work today. You'll find out soon enough."
Saul Goldstein: "OK."

Your claim has been debunked by more sources than claim it is the case. Israelis, more than anyone, can empathize with what happened on 9-11. It's interesting that there is no filmed evidence of your claims, yet there is plenty of filmed evidence of Palestinians dancing with joy on 9-11. It's a shame that you can't see both sides of the issue. I am in full support of a Palestinian state. It seems, however, that those who are vehemently anti-Israel see no room for Israel to exist at all.
a link to the info that debunks the myth would be most welcome.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. The onus is on you to provide something more compelling if you're going to push this conspiracy.
i'm still waiting to see the evidence that links osama bin laden and sadams involvement in 9/11.

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nsc wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
nsc wrote:
JennyB wrote:
nsc wrote: The Five Dancing Israelis
Arrested On 9-11









--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."
US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring.

"By way of deception, thou shalt do war"
Motto of the Mossad

link http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... aelis.html
Seriously? This tired conspiracy theory? That's right up there with the people who claim that no Jews were killed on 9-11. Yes, if I recall correctly, the day went a little something like this:
<phone rings>
Saul Goldstein: "Hello?"
The Mossad: "Is this Saul Goldstein who works at the World Trade Center?"
Saul Goldstein: "Yes, who is this?"
The Mossad: "This is the Mossad. Do not, I repeat, do NOT go to work today. You'll find out soon enough."
Saul Goldstein: "OK."

Your claim has been debunked by more sources than claim it is the case. Israelis, more than anyone, can empathize with what happened on 9-11. It's interesting that there is no filmed evidence of your claims, yet there is plenty of filmed evidence of Palestinians dancing with joy on 9-11. It's a shame that you can't see both sides of the issue. I am in full support of a Palestinian state. It seems, however, that those who are vehemently anti-Israel see no room for Israel to exist at all.
a link to the info that debunks the myth would be most welcome.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. The onus is on you to provide something more compelling if you're going to push this conspiracy.
i'm still waiting to see the evidence that links osama bin laden and sadams involvement in 9/11.
Nothing on the latter. Apparently you're more demanding of evidence for al qaeda's involvement than you are of Israel's.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
nsc wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
nsc wrote:
JennyB wrote: Seriously? This tired conspiracy theory? That's right up there with the people who claim that no Jews were killed on 9-11. Yes, if I recall correctly, the day went a little something like this:
<phone rings>
Saul Goldstein: "Hello?"
The Mossad: "Is this Saul Goldstein who works at the World Trade Center?"
Saul Goldstein: "Yes, who is this?"
The Mossad: "This is the Mossad. Do not, I repeat, do NOT go to work today. You'll find out soon enough."
Saul Goldstein: "OK."

Your claim has been debunked by more sources than claim it is the case. Israelis, more than anyone, can empathize with what happened on 9-11. It's interesting that there is no filmed evidence of your claims, yet there is plenty of filmed evidence of Palestinians dancing with joy on 9-11. It's a shame that you can't see both sides of the issue. I am in full support of a Palestinian state. It seems, however, that those who are vehemently anti-Israel see no room for Israel to exist at all.
a link to the info that debunks the myth would be most welcome.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. The onus is on you to provide something more compelling if you're going to push this conspiracy.
i'm still waiting to see the evidence that links osama bin laden and sadams involvement in 9/11.
Nothing on the latter. Apparently you're more demanding of evidence for al qaeda's involvement than you are of Israel's.
Certainly more demanding than Bush's government.

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101Walterton wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
Apparently you're more demanding of evidence for al qaeda's involvement than you are of Israel's.
Certainly more demanding than Bush's government.
I'm almost 99.9999999999999999999% sure you didn't mean to imply that the Bush administration should have looked for a stronger link between Israel and the 9/11 attacks. But that's kind of how I just read this exchange.
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Wolter wrote:I'm almost 99.9999999999999999999% sure you didn't mean to imply that the Bush administration should have looked for a stronger link between Israel and the 9/11 attacks. But that's kind of how I just read this exchange.
Oh Wolter, you naive fool. :shifty:
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It's a pity that the Bush administration didn't pursue the connection with Saudi Arabia given that, oh, all but a couple of the hijackers were Saudis. Too busy secretly flying Saudi royals out of the family on 11 Sept. A lot of stuff about that day and those leading up to it stink, but conspiracy theorists tend to be rather obsessive about finding oddities and inconsistencies in official explanations, then turn around and accept/promote alternate theories without comparable scrutiny.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
nsc wrote:
JennyB wrote:
nsc wrote:
dpwolf wrote:Nice post NSC, thanks, although I agree it says nothing about Israel.
The Five Dancing Israelis
Arrested On 9-11









--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."
US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring.

"By way of deception, thou shalt do war"
Motto of the Mossad

link http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... aelis.html
Seriously? This tired conspiracy theory? That's right up there with the people who claim that no Jews were killed on 9-11. Yes, if I recall correctly, the day went a little something like this:
<phone rings>
Saul Goldstein: "Hello?"
The Mossad: "Is this Saul Goldstein who works at the World Trade Center?"
Saul Goldstein: "Yes, who is this?"
The Mossad: "This is the Mossad. Do not, I repeat, do NOT go to work today. You'll find out soon enough."
Saul Goldstein: "OK."

Your claim has been debunked by more sources than claim it is the case. Israelis, more than anyone, can empathize with what happened on 9-11. It's interesting that there is no filmed evidence of your claims, yet there is plenty of filmed evidence of Palestinians dancing with joy on 9-11. It's a shame that you can't see both sides of the issue. I am in full support of a Palestinian state. It seems, however, that those who are vehemently anti-Israel see no room for Israel to exist at all.
a link to the info that debunks the myth would be most welcome.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. The onus is on you to provide something more compelling if you're going to push this conspiracy.
What Hooks said. Seriously, with all of those mainstream news organizations you quoted that supposedly have this evidence, where is it? Why isn't it all over the BBC? The BBC is not exactly kind to Israel. Hell, I doubt even Al-Jazeera has broadcast those non-existant videos.

And nobody in the mainstream Jewish community takes Jews Against Zionism seriously. At the risk of sounding like a cliche, those people are self-hating Jews (I hate that term, but for that small minority of wackos, I think it applies). I'm not talking about prople who criticize Israeli policy...I've done plenty of that. I am talking about people who flat-out want to see it's destruction yet seem to look the other way when other countries participate in far more egregious offenses. I've never understood that -- the people who complain the loudest about Israel are usually the same people who don't say a peep about Darfur, the Roma situation, female genital mutilation, the fact that as a Jew I will never be allowed to even SET FOOT in Saudi Arabia (not that I would want to seeing how they oppress women and gays), the oppression of women, minorities and gays in other countries (Israel allows gay marriage for fuck sake, yet in Iran you can be executed for being gay)...the list goes on. I don't, and never will, understand this double standard.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
nsc wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
nsc wrote:
JennyB wrote: Seriously? This tired conspiracy theory? That's right up there with the people who claim that no Jews were killed on 9-11. Yes, if I recall correctly, the day went a little something like this:
<phone rings>
Saul Goldstein: "Hello?"
The Mossad: "Is this Saul Goldstein who works at the World Trade Center?"
Saul Goldstein: "Yes, who is this?"
The Mossad: "This is the Mossad. Do not, I repeat, do NOT go to work today. You'll find out soon enough."
Saul Goldstein: "OK."

Your claim has been debunked by more sources than claim it is the case. Israelis, more than anyone, can empathize with what happened on 9-11. It's interesting that there is no filmed evidence of your claims, yet there is plenty of filmed evidence of Palestinians dancing with joy on 9-11. It's a shame that you can't see both sides of the issue. I am in full support of a Palestinian state. It seems, however, that those who are vehemently anti-Israel see no room for Israel to exist at all.
a link to the info that debunks the myth would be most welcome.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. The onus is on you to provide something more compelling if you're going to push this conspiracy.
i'm still waiting to see the evidence that links osama bin laden and sadams involvement in 9/11.
Nothing on the latter. Apparently you're more demanding of evidence for al qaeda's involvement than you are of Israel's.
so nothing on the latter or the former. i just offered up verifiable information for mossad being 'involved' and you offered none for the bogeymen.

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Fucking ridiculous anti-Semitic trash. Normally I'm one for argument and debate, but jesus. Something bad happen? THE JEWS MUST'VE DONE IT!
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Wolter wrote:
101Walterton wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
Apparently you're more demanding of evidence for al qaeda's involvement than you are of Israel's.
Certainly more demanding than Bush's government.
I'm almost 99.9999999999999999999% sure you didn't mean to imply that the Bush administration should have looked for a stronger link between Israel and the 9/11 attacks. But that's kind of how I just read this exchange.

HOLD UP !!!!!!! I was implying that the Bush administration dont require 'evidence' upon which to go to war.
I certainly was not implying anything else, sorry for the confusion I was referring to the "Apparently you're more demanding of evidence " section of the quote. .

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Wolter wrote:
101Walterton wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
Apparently you're more demanding of evidence for al qaeda's involvement than you are of Israel's.
Certainly more demanding than Bush's government.
I'm almost 99.9999999999999999999% sure you didn't mean to imply that the Bush administration should have looked for a stronger link between Israel and the 9/11 attacks. But that's kind of how I just read this exchange.
i can't speak for 101er but i would want every avenue investigated, even if that leads to the uk, israel, or somewhere else in the middle-east.

the truth will set you free. lies are what keep you working for the clampdown.

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