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Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Homophobia Is Pretty Much Over

Posted: 27 Jun 2013, 4:54pm
by Dr. Medulla
IkarisOne wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:I have no fucking clue

Finally, some honesty around here.
Ah, there we go. Sooner or later, the insults emerge. Fine, you want some honesty? You're not very good at constructing an argument. At all. On any given topic, you begin with an unfalsifiable premise so that no one can ever prove you wrong, grab any bit of evidence(ishness) and treat it like a smoking gun, then declare your critics to be stupid, naive, or in the pocket of some sinister conspiracy (be it Sony or Obama or a group too shadowy to have a name). Then you move on to insults, perhaps threaten a lawsuit here or there (don't bother threatening me with one—I know a kick-ass Free Mason-linked firm that will grind you into dust), foe-ing, and eventually a big-ass tantrum where you tell the whole board that we're morons. If there are sub-steps in there that I've missed, my apologies. You wanna know why people aren't humouring you as before? We've seen this shit over and over and you're getting even worse at presenting even a semblance of a decent argument. If you go into a discussion where there's no scenario where your views might change, what's the point? That's a huge difference between you and everyone else here. We could change our opinion if presented with compelling evidence and a persuasive argument; you can't because there's always one more shadowy factor that you can invent to keep your paranoia running—along with the belief that you know what's "really happening." Are you looking for validation from people here? Proof that you're the most radical fucker around, even if it means turning everyone here into a straw man to make the case? Subservience? If you're just looking to soapbox and not deal with people telling you that you're koo-koo bananas, that's what your blog is for. You want real conversation here, you start with the premise that we're all equals here and nobody has a monopoly on truth or insight.

You want honesty? Here's the honest truth: You're a joke and the only people not laughing at you are those who feel sorry for you.

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Homophobia Is Pretty Much Over

Posted: 27 Jun 2013, 5:01pm
by Rat Patrol
http://www.salon.com/2013/06/27/that_ti ... eople_gay/

Guys! This box of Hi-C is making me want to interior decorate!

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Homophobia Is Pretty Much Over

Posted: 27 Jun 2013, 5:09pm
by JennyB
matedog wrote:On a side note: http://www.straightprideuk.com/
They used the gayest background colors available.

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Homophobia Is Pretty Much Over

Posted: 27 Jun 2013, 5:26pm
by IkarisOne
Dr. Medulla wrote:
IkarisOne wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:I have no fucking clue

Finally, some honesty around here.
Ah, there we go. Sooner or later, the insults emerge. Fine, you want some honesty? You're not very good at constructing an argument. At all. On any given topic, you begin with an unfalsifiable premise so that no one can ever prove you wrong, grab any bit of evidence(ishness) and treat it like a smoking gun, then declare your critics to be stupid, naive, or in the pocket of some sinister conspiracy (be it Sony or Obama or a group too shadowy to have a name). Then you move on to insults, perhaps threaten a lawsuit here or there (don't bother threatening me with one—I know a kick-ass Free Mason-linked firm that will grind you into dust), foe-ing, and eventually a big-ass tantrum where you tell the whole board that we're morons. If there are sub-steps in there that I've missed, my apologies. You wanna know why people aren't humouring you as before? We've seen this shit over and over and you're getting even worse at presenting even a semblance of a decent argument. If you go into a discussion where there's no scenario where your views might change, what's the point? That's a huge difference between you and everyone else here. We could change our opinion if presented with compelling evidence and a persuasive argument; you can't because there's always one more shadowy factor that you can invent to keep your paranoia running—along with the belief that you know what's "really happening." Are you looking for validation from people here? Proof that you're the most radical fucker around, even if it means turning everyone here into a straw man to make the case? Subservience? If you're just looking to soapbox and not deal with people telling you that you're koo-koo bananas, that's what your blog is for. You want real conversation here, you start with the premise that we're all equals here and nobody has a monopoly on truth or insight.

You want honesty? Here's the honest truth: You're a joke and the only people not laughing at you are those who feel sorry for you.
Yeah, I'm all broken up about that.

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Homophobia Is Pretty Much Over

Posted: 27 Jun 2013, 6:37pm
by eumaas
matedog wrote:Not my go-to gay, but his ex who I also lived with partially enlightened me on a counter gay marriage movement within the community that rejects the heteronormalcy sort of maybe inherent with marriage. Seems silly to me because it's just giving gays the option and some really prefer monogamous, lifetime relationships. I think there was more to it, regarding it being a smaller issue in the grand scheme of things. Let me do some research...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_Equality

My friend Ryan Conrad is a major figure in that movement.

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Homophobia Is Pretty Much Over

Posted: 02 Jul 2014, 4:13pm
by Rat Patrol
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... ma/373853/

Oh, yes, and there's of course this angle too to the Hobby Lobby/SCOTUS shitshow.

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Homophobia Is Pretty Much Over

Posted: 02 Jul 2014, 4:24pm
by Rat Patrol
Unrelated addendum: I should probably open the whole thread in a new window and see more than 2 posts of what trainwreckery I'm about to threadbump instead of just replying off the search screen.

Jesus Christ, these 4 pages. :yuck:

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Homophobia Is Pretty Much Over

Posted: 12 Jul 2014, 12:06pm
by tepista
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Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Homophobia Is Pretty Much Over

Posted: 28 Oct 2014, 4:53pm
by tepista
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Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Homophobia Is Pretty Much Over

Posted: 29 Sep 2015, 3:28pm
by Wolter
Heh, some friends of mine made it to HuffPo for this little prank:


Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Homophobia Is Pretty Much Over

Posted: 29 Sep 2015, 10:31pm
by JennyB
Wolter wrote:Heh, some friends of mine made it to HuffPo for this little prank:

Awesome :)

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Homophobia Is Pretty Much Over

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 7:40pm
by Rat Patrol
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/twinks ... sm-8882849

The call is coming from inside the house!

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Homophobia Is Pretty Much Over

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 7:56pm
by Dr. Medulla
Rat Patrol wrote:http://www.villagevoice.com/news/twinks ... sm-8882849

The call is coming from inside the house!
Strange bedfellows, so to speak.

Fake edit: God, what a ridiculous thread this began as. Like commenting to a Communist what a beautiful day it is and being accused of war crimes against the proletariat.

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Homophobia Is Pretty Much Over

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 8:21pm
by Rat Patrol
Dr. Medulla wrote:
Rat Patrol wrote:http://www.villagevoice.com/news/twinks ... sm-8882849

The call is coming from inside the house!
Strange bedfellows, so to speak.

Fake edit: God, what a ridiculous thread this began as. Like commenting to a Communist what a beautiful day it is and being accused of war crimes against the proletariat.
Actually, this has been predicted ever since the Orlando attack and associated noise about the attacker's ISIS allegiance. That there was going to be a coordinated effort to drive a wedge between two marginalized groups--LGBT and Muslims--by pitting them against each other over Orlando. Hence, the high-profile speaking engagements at this event by Pam Geller and Milo Assface.

We're not even talking false flag. This is pretty blatantly scripted and leaked from a mile away. Hence...yeah, "The call is coming from inside the house." Though one wonders how much oppo research the two-brain-celled wonders behind this actually engaged in. "Gay" is so massively heterogeneous an ID on a cultural level that the herding-cats aspect of trying to piece together a large enough coalition of "teh gheys" to demagogue Muslims is futile. Not to mention completely contrary to how they go about targeting other coalitions-of-the-aggrevied into an anti-Islamic froth. They succeed at that by targeting a strain of homogeny in their marks and exploiting that. This is the complete opposite. It's like they're mistaking LGBT with a race at the absolute most simplistic, boneheaded level. The error in logic is almost adorable in its sheer cluelessness...'cept, you know, for the hate being the complete opposite of adorable.

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Homophobia Is Pretty Much Over

Posted: 04 Jan 2017, 5:25pm
by tepista