Get off the streets. . .Get off the streets. . .

[SteveSatch]

You say you're not obsessed with my politics, and yet you them claim you know every post I've made in eight years. If that's not obsession, obsession doesn't exist.

I've certainly posted a lot about gun rights. You assume that means I do not care about the violation of other rights. That's quite an assumption to make. It's a incorrect assumption to make as well. Those posts don't need to be made here by me. They are made by other people and I'm not going to waste my time preaching to the choir.

Obama is not going to win.

Your post was nothing short of epic fail

A few of you sure seem obsessed with my politics and get close to stroking out you get so wound up.

Nope, not obsessed, just calling bullshit when I see / hear it (and, frankly, at this point, you're extremely amusing in your self-delusion that you're committed to higher ideals than everyone else here). You bleat on about "absolute personal freedom" and being such a principled libertarian—as distinctly opposed to being Republican, never let us forget—yet for the past eight years you've not once made a comment here about the eradication of civil liberties in your country at the hands of a Republican party intent on not only stripping away citizen's rights but monopolizing power into the federal executive and judiciary. If it's about guns, you're right in there, but not for any other constitutionally protected freedoms. I'm going to make a wild prediction that if Obama wins, you'll rediscover all those other aspects of the constitution and be more vigilante about posting your outrage whenever you think they're being violated. Being such a principled guy and all and not the least bit being a partisan drone.

[Marky Dread]

Those posts don't need to be made here by me.

Great thank fuck for that no more boring bullshit.

[Marky Dread]

Large amounts of urine (including 3 – 5 gallon buckets of urine)

That's just taking the piss.

[Dr. Medulla]

You say you're not obsessed with my politics, and yet you them claim you know every post I've made in eight years. If that's not obsession, obsession doesn't exist.

When a person says the same thing over and over to the near exclusion of all else, it doesn't take an obsession to make that observation.

Your post was nothing short of epic fail

So you're for lame Internet slang now?

Feel free to tell me now how you pwnd me!!!11!!!!

Again, we can only judge each other based on words and actions. If you're not a GOP talking points memo, speak like an independent-minded libertarian once in a while.

[BostonBeaneater]

I say Obama wins. The Republicans are running a terrible campaign. McCain looks older and more out of touch than any candidate I've ever seen. When the debates come, McCain is going to look like death warmed over next to Obama. The only thing that could stop Obama is his skin and America's attitude towards it.

[Dr. Medulla]

I say Obama wins. The Republicans are running a terrible campaign. McCain looks older and more out of touch than any candidate I've ever seen.

That's what's been such a surprise to me. Leaving out political positions, McCain has really run a poor campaign. The GOP has done a decent job turning Obama's charisma against him somewhat, but that only goes so far. You can raise questions about your opponent, but you still need to offer up yourself as a viable alternative, and he's been really poor at doing that. Is he just too old to handle the rigours of campaigning or did a lot of us overestimate his skills in '00?

[Wolter]

I say Obama wins. The Republicans are running a terrible campaign. McCain looks older and more out of touch than any candidate I've ever seen.

That's what's been such a surprise to me. Leaving out political positions, McCain has really run a poor campaign. The GOP has done a decent job turning Obama's charisma against him somewhat, but that only goes so far. You can raise questions about your opponent, but you still need to offer up yourself as a viable alternative, and he's been really poor at doing that. Is he just too old to handle the rigours of campaigning or did a lot of us overestimate his skills in '00?

I honestly think it's option B. He always came off as a bit of a demogogue to me.

[Dr. Medulla]

I say Obama wins. The Republicans are running a terrible campaign. McCain looks older and more out of touch than any candidate I've ever seen.

That's what's been such a surprise to me. Leaving out political positions, McCain has really run a poor campaign. The GOP has done a decent job turning Obama's charisma against him somewhat, but that only goes so far. You can raise questions about your opponent, but you still need to offer up yourself as a viable alternative, and he's been really poor at doing that. Is he just too old to handle the rigours of campaigning or did a lot of us overestimate his skills in '00?

I honestly think it's option B. He always came off as a bit of a demogogue to me.

I think it's a bit of both, but I lean more to (a). He just reminds me of my dad at that age—not totally clueless, but not overly sharp physically or mentally. Whether he was that sincere in his positions when he ran in '00, well, his behaviour since certainly gives one reason to wonder.

[Spiff]

The Leftist, anarchist, Obama-supporting radicals attacked RNC delegates today at the Xcel Center and sprayed them with a toxic substance.

Were these your words, or a copy and paste of a blog headline somewhere?

I ask because from what I saw in person, and what I have gleaned from the many local reports that I have seen and read, have all led me to believe that those doing the attacking were and are (as usual) the anarchists, and only the anarchists.

To say that "Leftist, anarchist, Obama-supporting radicals" did the attacking is simply unsupported, and I strongly object to it. A correct headline would only mention anarchists.

On Monday, these fucknuts were very visible. They seem to think they are ninjas, what with their black outfits and face coverings. (Just look at the NY Post photo you linked to.)

Their main goal is to mix it up with the cops, but as secondary goals they will attack anyone who participates in a hierarchical system, be they RNC delegates, or even a peaceful anti-war marcher wearing an Obama T-shirt or button, because, you know, any participation in a political system is oppressive and must be smashed. And apparently store windows, Dumpsters, trash cans, and mail boxes are also oppressive and must be smashed too.

So, as usual, these fucktards with their asinine agenda got all the media attention, and the half-asleep viewing public will unconsciously or consciously lump everyone together and conclude that "protester = dangerous brick chucker."

So sad.

Finally, your post includes a description of the pre-protest actions of my local county Sheriff, Bob Fletcher. Simply put, he's a moron.

I have no doubt that the city and/or county governments will lose the lawsuits that will inevitably be filed against them by those who were arrested during these unconstitutional raids.

The only good news is that the city of St. Paul at least took out insurance that will lower the amount of money it will certainly have to pay when they eventually lose.

Spiff

[Wolter]

Spiff, for the record, even anarchists is not a specific enough term.

What you're talking about sounds like lifestyle anarchists. Most of them are so inflexible that they fail to even realize exactly what the hell it is they want. And god forbid they actually think about what sorts of ways we could ever transfer to a non-heirarchal system (IF we can).

[Marky Dread]

Spiff, for the record, even anarchists is not a specific enough term.

What you're talking about sounds like lifestyle anarchists. Most of them are so inflexible that they fail to even realize exactly what the hell it is they want. And god forbid they actually think about what sorts of ways we could ever transfer to a non-heirarchal system (IF we can).

Just fight because they can with no real cause is this what you are saying Wolt?

[Wolter]

Spiff, for the record, even anarchists is not a specific enough term.

What you're talking about sounds like lifestyle anarchists. Most of them are so inflexible that they fail to even realize exactly what the hell it is they want. And god forbid they actually think about what sorts of ways we could ever transfer to a non-heirarchal system (IF we can).

Just fight because they can with no real cause is this what you are saying Wolt?

Well, they have a real cause. They just aren't THINKING about it much. I'm probably closer to some form of Left Libertarianism (i.e. Classical Anarchism) than any other political belief system, but the fact remains that the 19th Century Anarchists were not all Nihilists. These yahoos forget that Anarchism is less about lack of order and more about lack of compulsion and control. There still needs to be organization and association of like-minded individuals. And not ALL reformist tendencies are bad, just as not all revolutionary tendencies are good.

The honest truth is that I'd rather take baby steps toward a realizable goal than make broad sweeping gestures that accomplish nothing except caricature your own supposed beliefs in the minds of the general populace.

[eumaas]

Spiff, for the record, even anarchists is not a specific enough term.

What you're talking about sounds like lifestyle anarchists. Most of them are so inflexible that they fail to even realize exactly what the hell it is they want. And god forbid they actually think about what sorts of ways we could ever transfer to a non-heirarchal system (IF we can).

Nice concise defense. I'm an anarchist but I find violent protest mainly a silly, middle-class act. As the economy gets worse it's becoming clearer and clearer to me where I am class-wise, and it's not in the middle class. Just comparing the house, possessions, and wages of myself and my parents to my peers and their parents makes that clear.

[Marky Dread]

So they label themselves something without really thinking about who or what they are as long as the see some kind of social injustice it's worth the fight.

Class levels are something that I have never really understood I mean I go to work so i'm working class right?

[Purple Hayes]

So they label themselves something without really thinking about who or what they are as long as the see some kind of social injustice it's worth the fight.

Class levels are something that I have never really understood I mean I go to work so i'm working class right?

Class...

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