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Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Post by Dr. Medulla » 18 Jul 2017, 4:17pm

Y'know, back in November, when we woke to the dystopia of a party with authoritarian aspirations controlled all three branches of the US govt against an inept opposition, my single, almost microscopic dot of hope was that eight years of generating red meat rhetoric to hinder Obama would leave them without the ability to shift to govern mode, and that the factionalism that is easier to manage in opposition would blossom like the stink from a turd. And yet, these Pinochet wannabes are, as a group, total boobs, incapable of prettifying their ugly ideas for the public or enacting them as legislation. And that doesn't even take into account the dunce at the top who seems bent on fuelling scandals that paralyze his staff. If there's evidence of god's providence, perhaps it's that your authoritarians are so lousy at it.
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Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Post by eumaas » 19 Jul 2017, 10:39am

I give up on politics.
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Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Post by Dr. Medulla » 25 Jul 2017, 9:50am

Man, what Frank Capra and Jimmy Stewart could have done with an inspirational story like a stricken John McCain coming back to the Senate to say, yes, even tho I am dying, I will use my limited time on this planet to speed along the deaths of losers who fucked up by not getting rich.
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Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Post by matedog » 25 Jul 2017, 10:19am

Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jul 2017, 9:50am
Man, what Frank Capra and Jimmy Stewart could have done with an inspirational story like a stricken John McCain coming back to the Senate to say, yes, even tho I am dying, I will use my limited time on this planet to speed along the deaths of losers who fucked up by not getting rich.
I'd find that hilarious if it wasn't probably true.
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Post by Silent Majority » 25 Jul 2017, 1:09pm

Fuck that line-toeing hack and the empty political establishment which embraces him. Coward.
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Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Post by Flex » 25 Jul 2017, 2:05pm

I cannot imagine the monstrous cruelty a person has to have within themselves to spend most of their life enjoying taxpayer-subsidized healthcare only to use your dying breaths to deny that same right to millions and ensure the deaths of thousands of people whose lives could be saved by adequate access to care.
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Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Post by Dr. Medulla » 25 Jul 2017, 2:15pm

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I cannot imagine the monstrous cruelty a person has to have within themselves to spend most of their life enjoying taxpayer-subsidized healthcare only to use your dying breaths to deny that same right to millions and ensure the deaths of thousands of people whose lives could be saved by adequate access to care.
The abstracting power of ideology is a helluva drug, turning other living creatures into something alien and contemptible. The moment your belief system allows you—mandates you—to reject essential commonality, you're at the abyss.
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Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Post by JennyB » 25 Jul 2017, 2:21pm

Flex wrote:
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I cannot imagine the monstrous cruelty a person has to have within themselves to spend most of their life enjoying taxpayer-subsidized healthcare only to use your dying breaths to deny that same right to millions and ensure the deaths of thousands of people whose lives could be saved by adequate access to care.
It's really mind boggling. Then again, he voted against making MLK Day a federal holiday...
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Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Post by Dr. Medulla » 14 Aug 2017, 12:03pm

http://gizmodo.com/why-are-neo-nazis-on ... 1797793858
This is one of the more curious things about today's fascists. Leftists don't have a problem acknowledging their positions and associations. But fascists so often seek out seemingly more benign terms. Is it just PR smokescreen, fear of criticism, or, more remotely, genuine ignorance? One of the little shitbags who was identified as a U of Nevada student claims that he isn't about anger or hate or any of that, and he doesn't understand being called a Nazi. He is almost certainly lying his ass off to escape deserved humiliation and ostracization, but there's always that part of me that is intrigued by the slim possibility that a couple of this guys are that dumb, that naive. There are plenty of stories about people drawn to the Communists in the 1930s, ignorant about the violence and often doublethink it required, so is it possible with some of these guys. I am, to repeat, highly skeptical, but it is a weird thought that I often return to.
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Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Post by JennyB » 14 Aug 2017, 12:09pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 12:03pm
http://gizmodo.com/why-are-neo-nazis-on ... 1797793858
This is one of the more curious things about today's fascists. Leftists don't have a problem acknowledging their positions and associations. But fascists so often seek out seemingly more benign terms. Is it just PR smokescreen, fear of criticism, or, more remotely, genuine ignorance? One of the little shitbags who was identified as a U of Nevada student claims that he isn't about anger or hate or any of that, and he doesn't understand being called a Nazi. He is almost certainly lying his ass off to escape deserved humiliation and ostracization, but there's always that part of me that is intrigued by the slim possibility that a couple of this guys are that dumb, that naive. There are plenty of stories about people drawn to the Communists in the 1930s, ignorant about the violence and often doublethink it required, so is it possible with some of these guys. I am, to repeat, highly skeptical, but it is a weird thought that I often return to.
These type of people also firmly believe in "reverse racism" and white genocide. I think they genuinely think there is equivalence in a black person expressing their frustration with systematic racism and their actual racism. Look at how people freak out when there is a biracial couple in a Cheerios commercial. They are the same people who think it's OK to say the N word because rappers say the N word. They buy into the notion that the white man is endangered. They are the snowflakes. I am surprised they don't embrace the Nazi label though. Maybe since they are also most likely Holocaust deniers, they don't think the Nazis went far enough?
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Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Post by Dr. Medulla » 14 Aug 2017, 12:20pm

JennyB wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 12:09pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 12:03pm
http://gizmodo.com/why-are-neo-nazis-on ... 1797793858
This is one of the more curious things about today's fascists. Leftists don't have a problem acknowledging their positions and associations. But fascists so often seek out seemingly more benign terms. Is it just PR smokescreen, fear of criticism, or, more remotely, genuine ignorance? One of the little shitbags who was identified as a U of Nevada student claims that he isn't about anger or hate or any of that, and he doesn't understand being called a Nazi. He is almost certainly lying his ass off to escape deserved humiliation and ostracization, but there's always that part of me that is intrigued by the slim possibility that a couple of this guys are that dumb, that naive. There are plenty of stories about people drawn to the Communists in the 1930s, ignorant about the violence and often doublethink it required, so is it possible with some of these guys. I am, to repeat, highly skeptical, but it is a weird thought that I often return to.
These type of people also firmly believe in "reverse racism" and white genocide. I think they genuinely think there is equivalence in a black person expressing their frustration with systematic racism and their actual racism. Look at how people freak out when there is a biracial couple in a Cheerios commercial. They are the same people who think it's OK to say the N word because rappers say the N word. They buy into the notion that the white man is endangered. They are the snowflakes. I am surprised they don't embrace the Nazi label though. Maybe since they are also most likely Holocaust deniers, they don't think the Nazis went far enough?
That can't be emphasized enough. If the notion of any kind of diversity gives you the vapours, you are beyond fragile.
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Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Post by Kory » 14 Aug 2017, 1:35pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 12:20pm
JennyB wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 12:09pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 12:03pm
http://gizmodo.com/why-are-neo-nazis-on ... 1797793858
This is one of the more curious things about today's fascists. Leftists don't have a problem acknowledging their positions and associations. But fascists so often seek out seemingly more benign terms. Is it just PR smokescreen, fear of criticism, or, more remotely, genuine ignorance? One of the little shitbags who was identified as a U of Nevada student claims that he isn't about anger or hate or any of that, and he doesn't understand being called a Nazi. He is almost certainly lying his ass off to escape deserved humiliation and ostracization, but there's always that part of me that is intrigued by the slim possibility that a couple of this guys are that dumb, that naive. There are plenty of stories about people drawn to the Communists in the 1930s, ignorant about the violence and often doublethink it required, so is it possible with some of these guys. I am, to repeat, highly skeptical, but it is a weird thought that I often return to.
These type of people also firmly believe in "reverse racism" and white genocide. I think they genuinely think there is equivalence in a black person expressing their frustration with systematic racism and their actual racism. Look at how people freak out when there is a biracial couple in a Cheerios commercial. They are the same people who think it's OK to say the N word because rappers say the N word. They buy into the notion that the white man is endangered. They are the snowflakes. I am surprised they don't embrace the Nazi label though. Maybe since they are also most likely Holocaust deniers, they don't think the Nazis went far enough?
That can't be emphasized enough. If the notion of any kind of diversity gives you the vapours, you are beyond fragile.
As far as not embracing the Nazi label, I often muse on this being the result of how propaganda works. Americans don't hate the Nazis because of anything they did, they hate Nazis simply because they were the enemy in WWII. They can share ideals with the Nazis because they're on home soil and can convince themselves that it's separate and distinct, but don't associate them with the enemy.
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Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Post by Dr. Medulla » 14 Aug 2017, 3:06pm

Kory wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 1:35pm
As far as not embracing the Nazi label, I often muse on this being the result of how propaganda works. Americans don't hate the Nazis because of anything they did, they hate Nazis simply because they were the enemy in WWII. They can share ideals with the Nazis because they're on home soil and can convince themselves that it's separate and distinct, but don't associate them with the enemy.
That's another thing that my mind wanders to whenever I watch a movie set in WWII. Do white nationalists feel conflicted when they watch those films? The kind of mental gymnastics required would seem greater for such limited intelligence, and yet it does happen, I guess.
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Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Post by JennyB » 14 Aug 2017, 3:11pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 3:06pm
Kory wrote:
14 Aug 2017, 1:35pm
As far as not embracing the Nazi label, I often muse on this being the result of how propaganda works. Americans don't hate the Nazis because of anything they did, they hate Nazis simply because they were the enemy in WWII. They can share ideals with the Nazis because they're on home soil and can convince themselves that it's separate and distinct, but don't associate them with the enemy.
That's another thing that my mind wanders to whenever I watch a movie set in WWII. Do white nationalists feel conflicted when they watch those films? The kind of mental gymnastics required would seem greater for such limited intelligence, and yet it does happen, I guess.
Many of them would have gladly joined a Bundist group had they lived back then.
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