This is a fucking outrage.

Dr. Medulla · Post by **Dr. Medulla** » 18 Aug 2008, 9:34am

The world is truly post-modern when a former Hitler Youth becomes Pope and criticizes Fascist policies.

eumaas · Post by **eumaas** » 26 Aug 2008, 10:00am

http://www.theage.com.au/world/tourist- ... -42zf.html

Something bad happens? Blame a gypsy! Even when it's some young mafia tough.

eumaas · Post by **eumaas** » 11 Sep 2008, 9:41am

http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/1220965323.46

Some pressures being brought to bear, but so many seem comfortable with as-is.

Wolter · Post by **Wolter** » 11 Sep 2008, 9:45am

eumaas wrote:http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/1220965323.46

Some pressures being brought to bear, but so many seem comfortable with as-is.

That's at least somewhat encouraging.

eumaas · Post by **eumaas** » 16 Sep 2008, 9:15am

Not an Italian situation article, but just on Romani life in Europe:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7618399.stm

Olaf · Post by **Olaf** » 17 Sep 2008, 9:59am

Dr. Medulla wrote:The world is truly post-modern when a former Hitler Youth becomes Pope

To be fair, that's not saying much. Growing up in Germany at the time, this could hardly be avoided.

Dr. Medulla · Post by **Dr. Medulla** » 17 Sep 2008, 10:02am

Olaf wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:The world is truly post-modern when a former Hitler Youth becomes Pope
To be fair, that's not saying much. Growing up in Germany at the time, this could hardly be avoided.

Understood, but there was nothing about papal succession rules that said the next pope had to be German.

Olaf · Post by **Olaf** » 17 Sep 2008, 10:09am

yeah, all I'm saying is there are probably better things to hold against him than his "Nazi" past.

Dr. Medulla · Post by **Dr. Medulla** » 17 Sep 2008, 10:19am

Olaf wrote:yeah, all I'm saying is there are probably better things to hold against him than his "Nazi" past.

Oh, definitely—his actions freely made as a member of the clergy, especially its upper hierarchy, are far more damning. But in the context of the fascist resurgence, his Hitler Youth connection resonates more.

threecoffins · Post by **threecoffins** » 17 Sep 2008, 10:57am

Olaf wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:The world is truly post-modern when a former Hitler Youth becomes Pope
To be fair, that's not saying much. Growing up in Germany at the time, this could hardly be avoided.

Like my dad.

Olaf · Post by **Olaf** » 17 Sep 2008, 11:00am

Mine, too.

Wolter · Post by **Wolter** » 17 Sep 2008, 11:03am

Or my fifth cousin, Charles Lindbergh.

Schnix · Post by **Schnix** » 17 Sep 2008, 11:19am

Whereas mine was all about "don't mention the war!"

Dr. Medulla · Post by **Dr. Medulla** » 17 Sep 2008, 11:32am

My mother was a young woman in the Netherlands during the war. She's not completely irrational about it, but she definitely still harbours resentment and mistrust towards Germans. I cut her some slack even as I tell her she's not being fair to those who weren't even born at the time. Parents …

Schnix · Post by **Schnix** » 17 Sep 2008, 11:57am

One of my grandfathers was of polish descent. Funny we never hear about that side of the family much!

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