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Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Racism is Pretty Much Over.

Posted: 01 Nov 2017, 11:22am
by Dr. Medulla
Spiff wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 11:17am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 9:36am
This isn't to say that I think this is what Kelly was talking about—his other, um, dubious comments about historical thinking and Lee tell me he's going the racist route of the Civil War being a white tragedy—but dismissing compromise out of hand as ludicrous seems more than a bit of an over-reaction rooted in present politics.
All good points, but your last paragraph that I've quoted above tells me that I've made the correct judgement of Kelly when I assert that the "compromise" that Kelly was referring to ain't the kind of compromise that you were referring to.

He's a racist making a racist judgement.
Yeah, reading between the lines and all that, I think the failure of compromise he's alluding to is the supposed failure of the North to just let Southerners be Southerners, drinking mint juleps and being all genteel and all that. My curiosity is with the historians; Kelly can go pound sand.

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Racism is Pretty Much Over.

Posted: 01 Nov 2017, 4:40pm
by Dr. Medulla
All kinds of disgusting here, from the white girl's intimidation tactics (putting it mildly) to the university trying to hush everything up and then acting like it was seeking to be responsible from the start, once shit went public.
https://www.theroot.com/disgusting-univ ... 1820036536

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Racism is Pretty Much Over.

Posted: 01 Nov 2017, 4:52pm
by Marky Dread
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:40pm
All kinds of disgusting here, from the white girl's intimidation tactics (putting it mildly) to the university trying to hush everything up and then acting like it was seeking to be responsible from the start, once shit went public.
https://www.theroot.com/disgusting-univ ... 1820036536
Truly disgusting without the racism. Just a vile thing to do

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Racism is Pretty Much Over.

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 10:27am
by JennyB
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:40pm
All kinds of disgusting here, from the white girl's intimidation tactics (putting it mildly) to the university trying to hush everything up and then acting like it was seeking to be responsible from the start, once shit went public.
https://www.theroot.com/disgusting-univ ... 1820036536
Also, who does this? Like, who even thinks to do this?

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Racism is Pretty Much Over.

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 11:27am
by Rat Patrol
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 10:27am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:40pm
All kinds of disgusting here, from the white girl's intimidation tactics (putting it mildly) to the university trying to hush everything up and then acting like it was seeking to be responsible from the start, once shit went public.
https://www.theroot.com/disgusting-univ ... 1820036536
Also, who does this? Like, who even thinks to do this?
Her hometown of Harwinton (2 rural shitholes over from my hometown) is pretty much the exploding woodland meth shack capital of Connecticut. Extremely white and extremely damaged. I took one look at the mugshot and said "Oh, def Litchfield County." All the players on their HS basketball team look like 35-year-olds with latent cirrhosis who hate life itself.

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Racism is Pretty Much Over.

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 12:38pm
by Marky Dread
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 10:27am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:40pm
All kinds of disgusting here, from the white girl's intimidation tactics (putting it mildly) to the university trying to hush everything up and then acting like it was seeking to be responsible from the start, once shit went public.
https://www.theroot.com/disgusting-univ ... 1820036536
Also, who does this? Like, who even thinks to do this?
L7?

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Racism is Pretty Much Over.

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 1:11pm
by JennyB
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 12:38pm
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 10:27am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:40pm
All kinds of disgusting here, from the white girl's intimidation tactics (putting it mildly) to the university trying to hush everything up and then acting like it was seeking to be responsible from the start, once shit went public.
https://www.theroot.com/disgusting-univ ... 1820036536
Also, who does this? Like, who even thinks to do this?
L7?
That was a feminist statement, not a racist intimidation act!

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Racism is Pretty Much Over.

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 1:13pm
by Mimi
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:40pm
All kinds of disgusting here, from the white girl's intimidation tactics (putting it mildly) to the university trying to hush everything up and then acting like it was seeking to be responsible from the start, once shit went public.
https://www.theroot.com/disgusting-univ ... 1820036536
She's a pig.

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Racism is Pretty Much Over.

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 1:34pm
by Marky Dread
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 1:11pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 12:38pm
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 10:27am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:40pm
All kinds of disgusting here, from the white girl's intimidation tactics (putting it mildly) to the university trying to hush everything up and then acting like it was seeking to be responsible from the start, once shit went public.
https://www.theroot.com/disgusting-univ ... 1820036536
Also, who does this? Like, who even thinks to do this?
L7?
That was a feminist statement, not a racist intimidation act!
Oh sure I'm not suggesting it has anything whatsoever to do with racism. It's just a vile thing to do and I can't agree about it being a feminist act as she threw a used tampon into a huge crowd of people and it could've hit a man/woman or child.

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Racism is Pretty Much Over.

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 1:52pm
by JennyB
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 1:34pm
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 1:11pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 12:38pm
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 10:27am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:40pm
All kinds of disgusting here, from the white girl's intimidation tactics (putting it mildly) to the university trying to hush everything up and then acting like it was seeking to be responsible from the start, once shit went public.
https://www.theroot.com/disgusting-univ ... 1820036536
Also, who does this? Like, who even thinks to do this?
L7?
That was a feminist statement, not a racist intimidation act!
Oh sure I'm not suggesting it has anything whatsoever to do with racism. It's just a vile thing to do and I can't agree about it being a feminist act as she threw a used tampon into a huge crowd of people and it could've hit a man/woman or child.
I know - it was gross.

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Racism is Pretty Much Over.

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 2:00pm
by Marky Dread
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 1:52pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 1:34pm
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 1:11pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 12:38pm
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 10:27am


Also, who does this? Like, who even thinks to do this?
L7?
That was a feminist statement, not a racist intimidation act!
Oh sure I'm not suggesting it has anything whatsoever to do with racism. It's just a vile thing to do and I can't agree about it being a feminist act as she threw a used tampon into a huge crowd of people and it could've hit a man/woman or child.
I know - it was gross.
I know also as I witnessed it. Luckily I wasn't drunk enough to try and catch it. Plus I was far enough away for it not too reach me. It was a silly thing to do and I really liked them they were one of the best all girl groups since the Slits who really had the chance to get a strong feminst message across.

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Racism is Pretty Much Over.

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 3:39pm
by JennyB
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 2:00pm
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 1:52pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 1:34pm
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 1:11pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 12:38pm


L7?
That was a feminist statement, not a racist intimidation act!
Oh sure I'm not suggesting it has anything whatsoever to do with racism. It's just a vile thing to do and I can't agree about it being a feminist act as she threw a used tampon into a huge crowd of people and it could've hit a man/woman or child.
I know - it was gross.
I know also as I witnessed it. Luckily I wasn't drunk enough to try and catch it. Plus I was far enough away for it not too reach me. It was a silly thing to do and I really liked them they were one of the best all girl groups since the Slits who really had the chance to get a strong feminst message across.
I was front row at a PIL concert and Lydon pulled a tampon out of his butt. People actually scrambled for it. I held out for the setlist.

I thought L7 were OK, but my favorite Riot Grrl group is Babes in Toyland. L7 were a bit too much on the metal side for me.

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Racism is Pretty Much Over.

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 3:52pm
by Marky Dread
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 3:39pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 2:00pm
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 1:52pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 1:34pm
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 1:11pm

That was a feminist statement, not a racist intimidation act!
Oh sure I'm not suggesting it has anything whatsoever to do with racism. It's just a vile thing to do and I can't agree about it being a feminist act as she threw a used tampon into a huge crowd of people and it could've hit a man/woman or child.
I know - it was gross.
I know also as I witnessed it. Luckily I wasn't drunk enough to try and catch it. Plus I was far enough away for it not too reach me. It was a silly thing to do and I really liked them they were one of the best all girl groups since the Slits who really had the chance to get a strong feminst message across.
I was front row at a PIL concert and Lydon pulled a tampon out of his butt. People actually scrambled for it. I held out for the setlist.

I thought L7 were OK, but my favorite Riot Grrl group is Babes in Toyland. L7 were a bit too much on the metal side for me.
Yes I agree about being "too metal" but they had managed to hit the mainstream with "Pterend Your Dead" and that was a good platform to build on promoting more female groups. Babes in Toyland were fabulous.

As for Lydon :meh: Was it after the L7 thing and his idea of a joke or a re-butt-al.

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Racism is Pretty Much Over.

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 4:22pm
by JennyB
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 3:52pm
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 3:39pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 2:00pm
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 1:52pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 1:34pm


Oh sure I'm not suggesting it has anything whatsoever to do with racism. It's just a vile thing to do and I can't agree about it being a feminist act as she threw a used tampon into a huge crowd of people and it could've hit a man/woman or child.
I know - it was gross.
I know also as I witnessed it. Luckily I wasn't drunk enough to try and catch it. Plus I was far enough away for it not too reach me. It was a silly thing to do and I really liked them they were one of the best all girl groups since the Slits who really had the chance to get a strong feminst message across.
I was front row at a PIL concert and Lydon pulled a tampon out of his butt. People actually scrambled for it. I held out for the setlist.

I thought L7 were OK, but my favorite Riot Grrl group is Babes in Toyland. L7 were a bit too much on the metal side for me.
Yes I agree about being "too metal" but they had managed to hit the mainstream with "Pterend Your Dead" and that was a good platform to build on promoting more female groups. Babes in Toyland were fabulous.

As for Lydon :meh: Was it after the L7 thing and his idea of a joke or a re-butt-al.
I think it was a couple of years before - it was 1992, and wasn't the L7 thing in 94 or 95?

Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Racism is Pretty Much Over.

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 4:30pm
by Marky Dread
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 4:22pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 3:52pm
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 3:39pm
Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 2:00pm
JennyB wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 1:52pm

I know - it was gross.
I know also as I witnessed it. Luckily I wasn't drunk enough to try and catch it. Plus I was far enough away for it not too reach me. It was a silly thing to do and I really liked them they were one of the best all girl groups since the Slits who really had the chance to get a strong feminst message across.
I was front row at a PIL concert and Lydon pulled a tampon out of his butt. People actually scrambled for it. I held out for the setlist.

I thought L7 were OK, but my favorite Riot Grrl group is Babes in Toyland. L7 were a bit too much on the metal side for me.
Yes I agree about being "too metal" but they had managed to hit the mainstream with "Pterend Your Dead" and that was a good platform to build on promoting more female groups. Babes in Toyland were fabulous.

As for Lydon :meh: Was it after the L7 thing and his idea of a joke or a re-butt-al.
I think it was a couple of years before - it was 1992, and wasn't the L7 thing in 94 or 95?
It was in '92 at the Reading Festival PiL played the same weekend that's why I think it was a dig at L7.