No, No, Don't Worry. Racism is Pretty Much Over.

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One of the hardest things for me to understand is why people dig in and fight so hard for something like this? What are you giving up if you say hey - yes, we shouldn't use the Cleveland Indians in youth sports?
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WestwayKid wrote:
04 May 2018, 4:43pm
One of the hardest things for me to understand is why people dig in and fight so hard for something like this? What are you giving up if you say hey - yes, we shouldn't use the Cleveland Indians in youth sports?
Hey, if us white folk give into the other on minor stuff like that, they might turn around and demand equality elsewhere. Then where would we be?
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WestwayKid wrote:
04 May 2018, 4:43pm
One of the hardest things for me to understand is why people dig in and fight so hard for something like this? What are you giving up if you say hey - yes, we shouldn't use the Cleveland Indians in youth sports?
Being white, male, and middle-class or better means, ideologically, the world bends to your wishes. Changing because some whiny loser people point out that that example of power is hurtful and entirely unnecessary is an attack on that ideology. I honestly believe that if the team had been even the most vulgar racial or sexual slur, those people would still dig in their heels because it's not the name, it's the challenge to authority.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
04 May 2018, 5:16pm
WestwayKid wrote:
04 May 2018, 4:43pm
One of the hardest things for me to understand is why people dig in and fight so hard for something like this? What are you giving up if you say hey - yes, we shouldn't use the Cleveland Indians in youth sports?
Being white, male, and middle-class or better means, ideologically, the world bends to your wishes. Changing because some whiny loser people point out that that example of power is hurtful and entirely unnecessary is an attack on that ideology. I honestly believe that if the team had been even the most vulgar racial or sexual slur, those people would still dig in their heels because it's not the name, it's the challenge to authority.
I think you're right - it the challenge to authority. If it really was just about the name - they'd just fix it - if for nothing else - to get the guy to go away...but giving in means bowing to the outside world and popping that bubble they've built around themselves.

Curiously, we have a board member who is from India and he supported the statement...and as a white male - I did not??
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WestwayKid wrote:
04 May 2018, 5:32pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
04 May 2018, 5:16pm
WestwayKid wrote:
04 May 2018, 4:43pm
One of the hardest things for me to understand is why people dig in and fight so hard for something like this? What are you giving up if you say hey - yes, we shouldn't use the Cleveland Indians in youth sports?
Being white, male, and middle-class or better means, ideologically, the world bends to your wishes. Changing because some whiny loser people point out that that example of power is hurtful and entirely unnecessary is an attack on that ideology. I honestly believe that if the team had been even the most vulgar racial or sexual slur, those people would still dig in their heels because it's not the name, it's the challenge to authority.
I think you're right - it the challenge to authority. If it really was just about the name - they'd just fix it - if for nothing else - to get the guy to go away...but giving in means bowing to the outside world and popping that bubble they've built around themselves.

Curiously, we have a board member who is from India and he supported the statement...and as a white male - I did not??
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Fascinating test. I am a slight to moderate bigot but I am trying.

https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/selectatest.html

https://www.heritage.org/civil-society/ ... s-problems
Here’s how the test works: Test-takers are instructed to press one key when a picture of a black person appears on the screen, and another key when there’s a picture of a white person. Then you do the same with positive and negative words (“magnificent,” “delightful,” “rotten,” “hurtful,” and so on).
I should add that I stumbled across this test by googling, "How racist is Cincinnati?".
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BostonBeaneater wrote:
16 May 2018, 3:55pm
Fascinating test. I am a slight to moderate bigot but I am trying.

https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/selectatest.html

https://www.heritage.org/civil-society/ ... s-problems
Here’s how the test works: Test-takers are instructed to press one key when a picture of a black person appears on the screen, and another key when there’s a picture of a white person. Then you do the same with positive and negative words (“magnificent,” “delightful,” “rotten,” “hurtful,” and so on).
I should add that I stumbled across this test by googling, "How racist is Cincinnati?".
I got little or no automatic blah blah blah..
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Apparently I have a slight automatic preference for black people. And yet Spike Lee bugs the hell out of me, so that's odd.

edit: I also have a slight preference for the presidents preceding Trump and no preference between white and Native Americans. I want B to take the latter and for her to have a high preference for crackers.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 May 2018, 7:25am
Apparently I have a slight automatic preference for black people. And yet Spike Lee bugs the hell out of me, so that's odd.

edit: I also have a slight preference for the presidents preceding Trump and no preference between white and Native Americans. I want B to take the latter and for her to have a high preference for crackers.
I had to do this for work a few months ago and, surprise, I had a preference for LGBT people. And, yet, the Indigo Girls bug the hell out of me, so that too is odd.
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JennyB wrote:
17 May 2018, 11:05am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 May 2018, 7:25am
Apparently I have a slight automatic preference for black people. And yet Spike Lee bugs the hell out of me, so that's odd.

edit: I also have a slight preference for the presidents preceding Trump and no preference between white and Native Americans. I want B to take the latter and for her to have a high preference for crackers.
I had to do this for work a few months ago and, surprise, I had a preference for LGBT people. And, yet, the Indigo Girls bug the hell out of me, so that too is odd.
I just tried that one—no automatic preference either way. So I either dislike everyone or I'm a replicant.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 May 2018, 11:37am
JennyB wrote:
17 May 2018, 11:05am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 May 2018, 7:25am
Apparently I have a slight automatic preference for black people. And yet Spike Lee bugs the hell out of me, so that's odd.

edit: I also have a slight preference for the presidents preceding Trump and no preference between white and Native Americans. I want B to take the latter and for her to have a high preference for crackers.
I had to do this for work a few months ago and, surprise, I had a preference for LGBT people. And, yet, the Indigo Girls bug the hell out of me, so that too is odd.
I just tried that one—no automatic preference either way. So I either dislike everyone or I'm a replicant.
I vote for the latter.
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JennyB wrote:
17 May 2018, 12:31pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 May 2018, 11:37am
JennyB wrote:
17 May 2018, 11:05am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 May 2018, 7:25am
Apparently I have a slight automatic preference for black people. And yet Spike Lee bugs the hell out of me, so that's odd.

edit: I also have a slight preference for the presidents preceding Trump and no preference between white and Native Americans. I want B to take the latter and for her to have a high preference for crackers.
I had to do this for work a few months ago and, surprise, I had a preference for LGBT people. And, yet, the Indigo Girls bug the hell out of me, so that too is odd.
I just tried that one—no automatic preference either way. So I either dislike everyone or I'm a replicant.
I vote for the latter.
I always thought that was fact.
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Marky Dread wrote:
17 May 2018, 1:00pm
JennyB wrote:
17 May 2018, 12:31pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 May 2018, 11:37am
JennyB wrote:
17 May 2018, 11:05am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 May 2018, 7:25am
Apparently I have a slight automatic preference for black people. And yet Spike Lee bugs the hell out of me, so that's odd.

edit: I also have a slight preference for the presidents preceding Trump and no preference between white and Native Americans. I want B to take the latter and for her to have a high preference for crackers.
I had to do this for work a few months ago and, surprise, I had a preference for LGBT people. And, yet, the Indigo Girls bug the hell out of me, so that too is odd.
I just tried that one—no automatic preference either way. So I either dislike everyone or I'm a replicant.
I vote for the latter.
I always thought that was fact.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 May 2018, 1:16pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 May 2018, 1:00pm
JennyB wrote:
17 May 2018, 12:31pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 May 2018, 11:37am
JennyB wrote:
17 May 2018, 11:05am


I had to do this for work a few months ago and, surprise, I had a preference for LGBT people. And, yet, the Indigo Girls bug the hell out of me, so that too is odd.
I just tried that one—no automatic preference either way. So I either dislike everyone or I'm a replicant.
I vote for the latter.
I always thought that was fact.
:cry:
Hey man replicants are not that bad. Well the white one's anyway. :shifty:
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Marky Dread wrote:
17 May 2018, 1:27pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 May 2018, 1:16pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 May 2018, 1:00pm
JennyB wrote:
17 May 2018, 12:31pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 May 2018, 11:37am

I just tried that one—no automatic preference either way. So I either dislike everyone or I'm a replicant.
I vote for the latter.
I always thought that was fact.
:cry:
Hey man replicants are not that bad. Well the white one's anyway. :shifty:
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