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Wolter wrote:I randomly picked this thread to say that Hooky's boyfriend hates Jews.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20100726/pl_usnw/DC40859
I was going to post about this earlier. He was aon Bill Maher a few weeks ago and came across as a total nutjob, even more than usual. I also think he's a pretty overrated director, though Platoon was good.
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Wolter wrote:I randomly picked this thread to say that Hooky's boyfriend hates Jews.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20100726/pl_usnw/DC40859
Shit, we broke up years ago.

Several months ago Ollie was promoting some new series, and he said that Hitler was a "scapegoat." Even if you want to discuss Hitler in a less polemically charged manner, scapegoat ain't the way to start things off.
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Wolter wrote:I randomly picked this thread to say that Hooky's boyfriend hates Jews.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20100726/pl_usnw/DC40859
That's pretty fucked up, and disappointing.
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Ever since South Africa chickened out, segregation has needed a more secure, loud and proud homeland. Good to see that South Israelina is stepping up.
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I re-read this thread and shook my head at my defence of Hoy's use of "begs the question," even as all his subsequent posts sought to undermine me. Hoy is the more-trouble-than-he's-worth partner in every buddy-cop movie.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:I re-read this thread and shook my head at my defence of Hoy's use of "begs the question," even as all his subsequent posts sought to undermine me. Hoy is the more-trouble-than-he's-worth partner in every buddy-cop movie.
Too bad real life isn't a Dirty Harry movie.
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Bankrobber wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:I re-read this thread and shook my head at my defence of Hoy's use of "begs the question," even as all his subsequent posts sought to undermine me. Hoy is the more-trouble-than-he's-worth partner in every buddy-cop movie.
Too bad real life isn't a Dirty Harry movie.
If the original Dirty Harry isn't in my personal top ten movies, I need to re-examine a lot of things.
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Don't wanna drag up a three year old debate, but I do fall more towards how phrases are used popularly than a Word-Mill, in-stone definition.
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Silent Majority wrote:Don't wanna drag up a three year old debate, but I do fall more towards how phrases are used popularly than a Word-Mill, in-stone definition.
I'm not normally that descriptivist anymore, but I stand by the fact that without the specific definition, "begging the question" serves no purpose as an expression and should then be abandoned, of only because its use in that context sounds super-cliche.
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Wolter wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:Don't wanna drag up a three year old debate, but I do fall more towards how phrases are used popularly than a Word-Mill, in-stone definition.
I'm not normally that descriptivist anymore, but I stand by the fact that without the specific definition, "begging the question" serves no purpose as an expression and should then be abandoned, of only because its use in that context sounds super-cliche.
I think its being a cliché is a much better argument for letting quietly die.
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Silent Majority wrote:
Wolter wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:Don't wanna drag up a three year old debate, but I do fall more towards how phrases are used popularly than a Word-Mill, in-stone definition.
I'm not normally that descriptivist anymore, but I stand by the fact that without the specific definition, "begging the question" serves no purpose as an expression and should then be abandoned, of only because its use in that context sounds super-cliche.
I think its being a cliché is a much better argument for letting quietly die.
Probably. I think the cliché factor dovetails nicely with it having a very specific meaning that honestly shouldn't come up often in conversation.
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Wolter wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:
Wolter wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:Don't wanna drag up a three year old debate, but I do fall more towards how phrases are used popularly than a Word-Mill, in-stone definition.
I'm not normally that descriptivist anymore, but I stand by the fact that without the specific definition, "begging the question" serves no purpose as an expression and should then be abandoned, of only because its use in that context sounds super-cliche.
I think its being a cliché is a much better argument for letting quietly die.
Probably. I think the cliché factor dovetails nicely with it having a very specific meaning that honestly shouldn't come up often in conversation.
Isn't the greater lesson that engineers should have to produce their TOEFL scores before being allowed to speak with the outside world?
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
Wolter wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:
Wolter wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:Don't wanna drag up a three year old debate, but I do fall more towards how phrases are used popularly than a Word-Mill, in-stone definition.
I'm not normally that descriptivist anymore, but I stand by the fact that without the specific definition, "begging the question" serves no purpose as an expression and should then be abandoned, of only because its use in that context sounds super-cliche.
I think its being a cliché is a much better argument for letting quietly die.
Probably. I think the cliché factor dovetails nicely with it having a very specific meaning that honestly shouldn't come up often in conversation.
Isn't the greater lesson that engineers should have to produce their TOEFL scores before being allowed to speak with the outside world?
It's the only sane conclusion.
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matedog wrote:
Wolter wrote:The fact that he thinks his logic is sound is proof that we need more logic in schools.
Wrong. More science fairs and less renaissance fairs.
This made me chuckle.
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