Heroin doesn't kill people, drug dealers who cut heroin with shit kill people. It is the shit in the heroin that fucks up your health. There are plenty of rich heroin addicts who live a happy healthy life as they can afford 'clean' junk.Silent Majority wrote:Only for heroin and crack. Everything else is recreation, they're poison.eumaas wrote:This is actually an interesting moral question and a good use of the thread: is dealing drugs intrinsically immoral? If so, what distinguishes a drug dealer in a moral sense from a barman?
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Apart from the mystique, heroin isn't that different from morphine. It used to be put to the same medicinal uses anyway.101Walterton wrote:Heroin doesn't kill people, drug dealers who cut heroin with shit kill people. It is the shit in the heroin that fucks up your health. There are plenty of rich heroin addicts who live a happy healthy life as they can afford 'clean' junk.Silent Majority wrote:Only for heroin and crack. Everything else is recreation, they're poison.eumaas wrote:This is actually an interesting moral question and a good use of the thread: is dealing drugs intrinsically immoral? If so, what distinguishes a drug dealer in a moral sense from a barman?
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eumaas wrote:Apart from the mystique, heroin isn't that different from morphine. It used to be put to the same medicinal uses anyway.101Walterton wrote:Heroin doesn't kill people, drug dealers who cut heroin with shit kill people. It is the shit in the heroin that fucks up your health. There are plenty of rich heroin addicts who live a happy healthy life as they can afford 'clean' junk.Silent Majority wrote:Only for heroin and crack. Everything else is recreation, they're poison.eumaas wrote:This is actually an interesting moral question and a good use of the thread: is dealing drugs intrinsically immoral? If so, what distinguishes a drug dealer in a moral sense from a barman?
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This is an excellent point, I think.101Walterton wrote:Heroin doesn't kill people, drug dealers who cut heroin with shit kill people. It is the shit in the heroin that fucks up your health. There are plenty of rich heroin addicts who live a happy healthy life as they can afford 'clean' junk.
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Yes very true however it doesn't matter how rich you are, if someone (a dealer) gets greedy then who knows what shit you may be taking. But I agree the richer you are the less chance of your supply being tampered with.Flex wrote:This is an excellent point, I think.101Walterton wrote:Heroin doesn't kill people, drug dealers who cut heroin with shit kill people. It is the shit in the heroin that fucks up your health. There are plenty of rich heroin addicts who live a happy healthy life as they can afford 'clean' junk.
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I think the journalist and I use that term in the loosest possible sense should also be charged with something, incitement perhaps..?
Poor sod has a famous Son, that's the only reason he's going to jail, nobody would have given a flying fuck otherwise... :(
Poor sod has a famous Son, that's the only reason he's going to jail, nobody would have given a flying fuck otherwise... :(
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Agreed.Purple Hayes wrote:I think the journalist and I use that term in the loosest possible sense should also be charged with something, incitement perhaps..?
Poor sod has a famous Son, that's the only reason he's going to jail, nobody would have given a flying fuck otherwise... :(
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Nah, fuck him. He didn't get picked on because he was the father of a celebrity he got targeted because he was a drug dealer that used to brag about being JT's dad and used JT for his own gain. You can't have it both ways. Yes if he wasn't JT's dad it wouldn't be news however if he didn't brag about who he was The Sun probably wouldn't have bothered.Marky Dread wrote:Agreed.Purple Hayes wrote:I think the journalist and I use that term in the loosest possible sense should also be charged with something, incitement perhaps..?
Poor sod has a famous Son, that's the only reason he's going to jail, nobody would have given a flying fuck otherwise... :(
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Both probably right. He is his own worst enemy for the bragging, however the gutterpress would have found out anyways.101Walterton wrote:Nah, fuck him. He didn't get picked on because he was the father of a celebrity he got targeted because he was a drug dealer that used to brag about being JT's dad and used JT for his own gain. You can't have it both ways. Yes if he wasn't JT's dad it wouldn't be news however if he didn't brag about who he was The Sun probably wouldn't have bothered.Marky Dread wrote:Agreed.Purple Hayes wrote:I think the journalist and I use that term in the loosest possible sense should also be charged with something, incitement perhaps..?
Poor sod has a famous Son, that's the only reason he's going to jail, nobody would have given a flying fuck otherwise... :(
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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 75470.html?
If true, I'd like to see him booted out of the game for good.
If true, I'd like to see him booted out of the game for good.
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I expect it to be true and it happens in all games not just ones that feature John Terry.Heston wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 75470.html?
If true, I'd like to see him booted out of the game for good.
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Terry can just add it to his growing CV.
Racism allegations are notoriously hard to prove, as Manchester United's Patrice Evra is finding out with regard to the allegation he made against Liverpool's Luis Suarez. In 2007, an FA charge against Emre, the Turkish midfielder then with Newcastle, was found not proven following allegations he had racially abused Everton players. It later emerged the verdict followed a discrepancy as to whether he used the word "negro" or "nigger".
Who the fuck uses the word negro in anger
Racism allegations are notoriously hard to prove, as Manchester United's Patrice Evra is finding out with regard to the allegation he made against Liverpool's Luis Suarez. In 2007, an FA charge against Emre, the Turkish midfielder then with Newcastle, was found not proven following allegations he had racially abused Everton players. It later emerged the verdict followed a discrepancy as to whether he used the word "negro" or "nigger".
Who the fuck uses the word negro in anger
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Have it Terry, you fucking scumbag.
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I hope the arrogant twat is banned for a long, long time. We also might do well in the Euros next year with one less lumbering has-been.Silent Majority wrote:Have it Terry, you fucking scumbag.
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