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Re: Hey limeys

Posted: 05 Sep 2016, 6:28am
by Silent Majority
Dr. Medulla wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:I don't read much of the mainstream press, let alone the mainstream international press. Has there been any coverage for the incredible purge Labour did for the leadership election?

Here's what google brings up: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09 ... in-an-age/
A nice little death dance, with the winner getting the party name and machinery. It certainly belies the idea that New Labour is all about pragmatism.
Absolutely. They're locked into their very strong pro-establishment beliefs and are happy to work extremely hard against any meaningful difference in the UK's Overton window. To paraphrase the quote misattributed to Emma Goldman, voting would have changed something here and they made it illegal.

Re: Hey limeys

Posted: 05 Sep 2016, 6:57am
by Rat Patrol
Silent Majority wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:I don't read much of the mainstream press, let alone the mainstream international press. Has there been any coverage for the incredible purge Labour did for the leadership election?

Here's what google brings up: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09 ... in-an-age/
A nice little death dance, with the winner getting the party name and machinery. It certainly belies the idea that New Labour is all about pragmatism.
Absolutely. They're locked into their very strong pro-establishment beliefs and are happy to work extremely hard against any meaningful difference in the UK's Overton window. To paraphrase the quote misattributed to Emma Goldman, voting would have changed something here and they made it illegal.
Woke-ist liberalism über alles.

Re: Hey limeys

Posted: 22 Sep 2016, 11:46am
by eumaas

Re: Hey limeys

Posted: 22 Sep 2016, 11:57am
by Dr. Medulla
If the West somehow survives this fascist spasm without actually going full-on and open authoritarian, twenty years from now there will be a lot of people in the media and politics who will have a hard time defending their rhetoric and actions. It'll be like the 1930s Nazi sympathizers and other xenophobes seeking to bury their politics after the war was over. The logic of fascism has become terrifyingly irresistible to those who are allegedly intelligent and well read. Absolute madness.

Re: Hey limeys

Posted: 22 Sep 2016, 12:05pm
by eumaas
Dr. Medulla wrote:
If the West somehow survives this fascist spasm without actually going full-on and open authoritarian, twenty years from now there will be a lot of people in the media and politics who will have a hard time defending their rhetoric and actions. It'll be like the 1930s Nazi sympathizers and other xenophobes seeking to bury their politics after the war was over. The logic of fascism has become terrifyingly irresistible to those who are allegedly intelligent and well read. Absolute madness.
It's incredible that this is the hill they want to die on. They view the Labour Party as their property, there to express the class interests of the well-to-do upper middle. Why even the pretense of socialism and working class politics?

And yeah, you're right. This playing for the imaginary middle just enables reaction. You have to fight fascism with something more than milquetoast liberalism.

Re: Hey limeys

Posted: 23 Sep 2016, 12:44pm
by Rat Patrol
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-37447086

Huh...I did not know that the Greens candidate running for Dead Pig Head Fellator's vacated MP seat is none other than Bernie Sanders' own expat brother.

Re: Hey limeys

Posted: 23 Sep 2016, 12:53pm
by Dr. Medulla
Rat Patrol wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-37447086

Huh...I did not know that the Greens candidate running for Dead Pig Head Fellator's vacated MP seat is none other than Bernie Sanders' own expat brother.
"No flipping."

Re: Hey limeys

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 9:30am
by Dr. Medulla
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/jeremy-cor ... -1.3777524

That the Blair subverters continue to be called centrists is a mockery of language and a sad comment on how skewed the spectrum has become in the past four decades. No wonder that anyone calling for stuff as mundane as a higher minimum wage is seen as Trotskyite.

Re: Hey limeys

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 11:08am
by Silent Majority
Dr. Medulla wrote:http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/jeremy-cor ... -1.3777524

That the Blair subverters continue to be called centrists is a mockery of language and a sad comment on how skewed the spectrum has become in the past four decades. No wonder that anyone calling for stuff as mundane as a higher minimum wage is seen as Trotskyite.
Funny to see the anageographic use of 'lawmaker' when talking about UK politics. The neoliberals will be back next year to shit in their own beds and challenge him again.

Re: Hey limeys

Posted: 05 Oct 2016, 1:53am
by Silent Majority
Of course, the British state was founded and sustained by theft and murder. It's enjoyed centuries of reprehensible villainy. But just this year, I would say it has raced into cartoonish supervillainy.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 43551.html

Re: Hey limeys

Posted: 05 Oct 2016, 6:27am
by Dr. Medulla
Silent Majority wrote:Of course, the British state was founded and sustained by theft and murder. It's enjoyed centuries of reprehensible villainy. But just this year, I would say it has raced into cartoonish supervillainy.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 43551.html
Awesome. Nice admission that soldiers end up acting like monsters when serving overseas. But they're our monsters.

Re: Hey limeys

Posted: 07 Oct 2016, 1:11am
by Marky Dread
Corbyn's ex lover moving on up. Not a lady I like very much.

Re: Hey limeys

Posted: 07 Oct 2016, 1:54pm
by Silent Majority
Marky Dread wrote:Corbyn's ex lover moving on up. Not a lady I like very much.
I've never found myself impressed by her when interviewed or on that unwatchable This Week program with Michael Portillo. Maybe she's very competent behind the scenes, I don't know.

Some liberal commenters are placing any criticism against her straight in the Racist Misogynist file which is easy, counterproductive and a bit dumb. You can object to a black woman without being a racist. I know that a lot of the awful abuse she gets comes from that, of course. I find that Kate Osamor is a much more charismatic, dynamic presence.

Re: Hey limeys

Posted: 07 Oct 2016, 8:40pm
by Marky Dread
Silent Majority wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:Corbyn's ex lover moving on up. Not a lady I like very much.
I've never found myself impressed by her when interviewed or on that unwatchable This Week program with Michael Portillo. Maybe she's very competent behind the scenes, I don't know.

Some liberal commenters are placing any criticism against her straight in the Racist Misogynist file which is easy, counterproductive and a bit dumb. You can object to a black woman without being a racist. I know that a lot of the awful abuse she gets comes from that, of course. I find that Kate Osamor is a much more charismatic, dynamic presence.
I agree Kate Osamor is way more charismatic. Abbot is prone to making very stupid comments at times and tends to only apologise when she is forced into it. I also find her extremely overbearing when listening to her as she constantly tries to turn every issue into something about black people.

Re: Hey limeys

Posted: 02 Nov 2016, 5:14pm
by Dr. Medulla
Ha, no surprise, really, that Morrissey was/is pro-Brexit/Farage. Such a sweet and tender bigoted moron. And once again, Johnny Marr comes out as the better one of the Smiths.
http://www.nme.com/news/music/johnny-ma ... ts-1814488